Talk:Angelina Jolie

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1 Funeral Director? 2 tattoo 3 quotes 4 picture 5 Gay Icon Project 6 Most beautiful woman? 7 Adopted or Pregnant??

Funeral Director?

Did she really dream of becomming a funeral director? I looked in the history, but it wasn't vandalism, it looked like a valid edit. Growing up with actors as parents, you'd think she'd want to be an actress. And then she attended a theater school when she was 11--not exactly the best training to become a funeral director. Whhat is the source of this factoid?

If it's valid, we should insert why she wanted to be a funeral director. Otherwise, it sounds bogus (like it does now). — Frecklefoot | Talk 17:47, Sep 24, 2004 (UTC)

It seems so. I've read this rumour on many places. Can't be sure though, but I wouldn't be surprised because Angelina is a bit odd, I mean, she's not exactly the girl next door if you know what I mean.

EliasAlucard Talk 16:14, Apr 13, 2005 (UTC)

I've read this in an interview with her. It was something that came out during her "goth" phase around the time she won the Oscar. Can't remember exactly where I read it. 23skidoo 00:35, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

tattoo

I found a pic of the tattoo in question (http://www.vanishingtattoo.com/tattoo/celeb-jolie2.htm), i looked it up at babelfish (http://babelfish.altavista.com) and, so far as i can tell this is Japanese not Chinese. Actually the chariters were the same but there was a second chariter for chinese (traditional or simplified). If someone who reads chinese agrees that this is death in chinese as well, please change to Japanese Kanji/Chinese. Cavebear42 22:33, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I found a person who can read both Chinese and Japanese to confirm that this is the same chariter and acceptable in both. Cavebear42 23:35, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)

OK, but is it the same character in both traditional and simplified chinese?

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Yes, its the same in both traditional and simplified chinese as well as japanese Cavebear42 04:19, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)

quotes

I have removed the quotes because 1. the quote given was not cited. 2. the better place for quotes would be wikiquote. 3. the link cited was likely the source of the quote and its copyright did not allow us to copy them. 4. wikipedia is not a collection of links. The best thing to do would be to find a public domain source of quotes, create a wikiquote article with them, and then come back and link the wikiquote article from here. If you could do that, I would love it because I, personally, love some of the things she says. Cavebear42 20:09, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I agree. The Chinese simplified and traditional character. It's pronounce si(third tone) in mandarin Chinese.

picture

maybe we can get a better picture here.

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we ahve tried to find a better pic that could be released under a public domain or free licence but have not yet cam up with one. in the case that you have one, please go ahead and put it up. Cavebear42 22:31, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC)

This is what fair use is for. --Sn0wflake 05:36, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Not really. fair use is for "the Progress of Science and useful Arts". And in order to claim fair use "... one must demonstrate how it either advances knowledge or the progress of the arts through the addition of something new." While we are able to claim that we are adding something new to the world by working on this project, we must tread lightly on this matter. Using a picture because she looks much sexier in it surely has no interest in furthering science. If there was no possible way to find a pic that was free, then we might have a claim to fair use. That aside, I try to consider the spirit of this project as furthering the end goal. For instance, while the Wikipedia is obviously not 100% factual, more good editors than bad means that we are approaching truth all the time. In the same way by replacing fair use pictures with PD pics and by replacing PD pics with freely licensed pics, we are approaching a freely licensed encyclopedia. Cavebear42 23:01, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

It is for a nonprofit cause, though. Wikipedia is simply displaying the picture, not charging money for people to see it. It is equivalent to hanging the picture on one's wall.→ JarlaxleArtemis 23:59, 22 Feb 2005 (UTC)

fair use does not mean that non-profit orgs can use whatever they want it means that you can use it to further science and useful arts. not wanting to get off topic but, while you would prob get away with hanging a picture on your wall, that does not make it legal to do so and you are surely not protected by the fair use clause, esp when your "wall" is visable to the entire world over the internet. Cavebear42 05:44, 23 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Page has been restored to a photo that is not copy vio (cburnett put it back to this photo and i reverted that photo to one that was legal.) if you click on that link at the bottom of the edit page, Project:Copyrights, you will see that It is our goal to be able to freely redistribute as much of Wikipedia's material as possible, so original images and sound files licensed under the GFDL or in the public domain are greatly preferred to copyrighted media files used under fair use. Also, i don't belive that fair use applys here. for these reasons (and that the pic was never properly cited) I ask that we quit changeing this pic until we find one of equal or greater freeness. Cavebear42 19:37, 26 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I notice a new picture has been added from a movie premiere. That one's much better. I think a better UN-related shot of her is available, too. 23skidoo 00:36, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

kudo's on new pic Cavebear42 17:41, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I dunno. It looks like she has a black eye to me. I think a better image can be found by making a fair use screen capture from one of her movies. I'm willing to go through the effort. Alternately, the cover of her book could be used.23skidoo 22:20, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Gay Icon Project

In my effort to merge the now-deleted list from the article Gay icon to the Gay icons category, I have added this page to the category. I engaged in this effort as a "human script", adding everyone from the list to the category, bypassing the fact-checking stage. That is what I am relying on you to do. Please check the article Gay icon and make a judgment as to whether this person or group fits the category. By distributing this task from the regular editors of one article to the regular editors of several articles, I believe that the task of fact-checking this information can be expedited. Thank you very much. Philwelch 20:57, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Most beautiful woman?

Hey, whatever. I have seen maids in my country who are a million times prettier than this Angelina Jolie... thing.

On regards of the gay pride thing: Personally, I wouldn't feel any pride on talentless people like Angelina "pig liver lips" Jolie being gay.

Oh, by the way boys, I'm male and heterosexual. So, I'm not biased, just stating what her marketing team wont allow you to think.

Hey - to each their own, but it's a matter of public record that she usually tops magazine polls in these categories, so her marketing team doesn't really have much say in those matters. Her good works with the UN will remain long after her looks begin to fade, and I think she knows this. Personally I expect her to retire from acting to go full-time into humanitarian work one of these days, although as she herself has said the money she makes from movies has made it possible for her to do her work, so one compliments the other. 23skidoo 12:23, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Adopted or Pregnant??

I heard she was pregnant with both kids. But others say no. I can't find any info on a google search either way. 212.0.138.94 00:18, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

There is substantial media coverage of the fact that she adopted Maddox and is in the process of adopting a second child (I don't believe this process has been completed yet). Jolie says she has no desire to become pregnant as long as there are orphans out there. 23skidoo 15:56, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)