Talk:Castle

Does anyone have any information about the history of castles in Wales or Scotland, or indeed anywhere else - Adrian.

Especially, if we've got a 'castles in Britain' section, we ought to cover Edward I's castlebuilding campaign in Wales. FZ 14:14, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)

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This page is completely Eurocentric, but I'm sure there must be at least as much to say about castles in ancient China, South America, Africa... heck, everywhere that there was civilization there were probably fortifications that could be classified as castles. Perhaps the bulk of this article should be moved to Castles in Europe, leaving this page to become an overview of the entire concept with links to Castles in Asia, etc. for when they are written? Bryan 06:57, 4 Nov 2003 (UTC)

If they are small, self-contained fortresses (basically small towns), fine. It should enrich the article, as long as the addition's tone seems informative and interesting but not ideological. I don't know if we need to split the article, though. Making a few new sections might work...or it might make the article too long with a chaotic structure. -- Olathe November 17, 2003

Now that I think of it, as a rule, the word has historically been used to mean European fortresses. Perhaps fortress could be made into a proper article instead of a redirection to fortification. After all, not all fortifications are fortresses (a foxhole is hardly a fortress). Fortress means nearly the same as castle in most cases (except fortress can mean a much larger fortification), and it isn't Eurocentric. I think it would be far better to do what Bryan said with that article instead (make that page into an overview of the entire concept with links to castle and other fortress types). -- Olathe November 17, 2003

That sounds like a good plan- since not even all European fortresses are castles (the Maginot Line comes to mind), and trying to definte what constitutes a "castle" versus a "fortification" outside of a particular architectural tradition can be tricky. FZ 14:14, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I agree with Bryan. This page doesn't even mention about castles from other parts of the world. For example, there's an entire category (full of decent articles) listing Japanese castles (yes, that's the term used there), so I believe there's enough material to talk about them, even if it's just a little. About the word "castle", I don't know much about its origin, but nowadays, I'd say it gained a broader sense. I believe it could be used to describe many kinds of fortifications. Not just European ones.

Regarding castles from places such as America, a large part of them are European-style castles due to the colonization, though fortifications from native nations could be mentioned. – Kaonashi 15:25, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Images

IMHO i think that the first image is not the most beautiful representation of a castle i ever seen in my life. And the have no copyright and no information. I would purpose to remove it. Chmouel 10:25, 27 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I don't think it's a very nice image to put right in the beginning either. Maybe it would be a good idea to remove it and put the Spanish castle on its place. – Kaonashi 15:25, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Someone added another image of a castle to the article, so I just exchanged it with that weird image we are talking about here. Maybe it should be listed for deletion, now that it's not being used anywhere else. – Kaonashi 04:52, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)

The Himeji Castle image (above right) doesn't give as much architectural information as the one it was to replace, so I moved it here. With more good text on Japanese castles, we could use both images. Anyone? --Wetman 19:16, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Definition(s)

I have made a quick attempt to sort out the congeries of definitions in the introductory paragraph, but it could probably do with a thorough re-write! -- Picapica 15:15, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)