Talk:Colosseum
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The Title
Why is this article called the Roman Colosseum? I cannot find any other well-known "Colossei", and even if there are, then this building still deserves to be on the Colosseum page, with references to these others. jheijmans
- Have you seen The Coliseum? (Hint: it's in Nashville. Nashville is in Tennessee). ~~
I know those comments are kind of old, but I wanted to add this...it should probably just be "Colosseum," or even Flavian Amphitheatre, but I guess no one calls it that anymore. Also, I wasn't sure about the burning marble sentence, so I left it in. All I know about the marble is that they removed it to build other things in the middle ages. Adam Bishop 05:48 26 Jul 2003 (UTC)
I move that this article be moved to Colosseum. There is no other Colosseum (even if there is a copy of it in Tennessee), and the word Colosseum was coined in relation to this building. Even if it needs to be disambiguated from some other Colosseum, the correct form would be Coloesseum, Rome or Colosseum (Rome). Adam 08:22, 18 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Burning marble for lime not limestone
I'm confused by this phrase " marble burned to make limestone". Burning marble does not make limestone. Marble is metamorphosed limestone; limestone that underwent tremendous pressure and heat in the earths crust. Burning it does not turn it back into limestone. Perhaps what is intended is "lime" for use in mortar? And anyway, the colosseum is made of travertine, not marble.
- Marble was burned for lime not limestone. Powdered agricultural lime acts as a fertilizer. --Wetman 20:08, 9 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- Besides, romans had no need to make lime in this way, Vesuvius (spelling) the volcano gave them all of the ash and lime needed ... largely why romans were known for concrete, a case of geology giving them lemons. -- Dbroadwell 04:45, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
Temple in Jerusalem
I heard something on a TV documentary somewhere about the construction of the Colosseum having been financed by the sacking in 70 CE of Solomon's Temple in Jerusalem. The timeline seems to allow for this possibility, but is there a citable source that can corroborate this assertion? - Knoodelhed (Su. 9/7/03 14:30 PDT)
I agree. How could this be established with a citable source? Through Annual Reports? But what's the point here? Responsible economic history? Subtexts and agendas: so often a sign of pseudohistory. Wetman 12:26, 21 Nov 2003 (UTC)
- From the documentary I saw, there is some carved stone. Before the new text, there were holes for bronze letters. Some epigraphist reconstructed the text as VESPASIANVS / AMPHITEATRU / EX MANIBVS, which allegedly means that Vespasian built the amphiteatre with the loot. -- Error 23:33, 6 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Is the plural of "colosseum" collossea? Dysprosia 07:27, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- There is only one Colosseum...the Flavian Amphitheatre. It's not really correct to call those other ones colosseums. Anyway, "colosseum" is an adjective (describing the statue of Nero). If you wanted to use it as a noun in Latin (meaning "those things that are colossal" I guess) you could say "colossea," but I doubt it would ever have been used that way. The plural of amphitheatrum is "amphitheatra," if that helps. (If you want to use it as an English noun the plural is just "colosseums" :)) Adam Bishop 19:48, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Death penalty
"In recent years, the local authorities of Rome have ordered the lighting of the Colosseum to be lit all-night-long whenever a condemned to death penalty gets its sentence commuted or indulted."
Who can explain this to me? (It's the last sentence of the article.) Does this make sense? <KF> 03:57, 1 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- "In recent years, the officials of Rome have ordered that the lights of the Colosseum should burn continuously throughout the night each time the death sentence of a condemned prisoner is commuted." That's what it's trying to mean: no idea if it's true. - Nunh-huh 04:03, 1 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- Is there capital punishment in Italy? <KF> 05:10, 1 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- I think not, and suspect that the officials of Rome are simply having their say about the rest of the world. - Nunh-huh 05:47, 1 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- A recent example was the liberation of the two Simonas kidnapped in Iraq. -- Error 23:33, 6 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Who was the architect?
This is one of the most spectacular buildings built before the 20th century. Any information on who and how it was designed?
In the 20th century, can some architect office give an estimate of the number of engineers required to design something of this scale, with good old pen & paper? What about the construction? in 8 years?
-I haven't read anything in particular on this issue, but I know that Romans very rarely (or not actually) write down the architect on an inscription, but merely the one who donated the funds or the one who ordered it to be built.
For the Romans a mathematician was in much higher regard than a regular architect, or so I have been told. So I think it'll be hard to find out who designed it. Probably there will have been a team of architects with each one having their own specialty, and one supervisor. - EB
My Opinion of the Colosseum
I think the Roman times should make this a not torture thing because this is a harsh thing to do to someone in particular. Many people din't think what I thought but this is to me a legal action which I object to the torturing in the Roman times. It such a hassle when you could just put the man or women in jail or froce the gulitly out of the country. But duy to the respect many people never objected before about this back in those days. I wish I could just be there at the time of this thing started and stop it for the non torture of the Romans.
Spelling: "Coliseum"
Is this a legitimate alternate spelling? or should it be a silent redirect to Colosseum? or what? --Wetman 20:08, 9 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- I think that's a medieval Latin spelling, and Lord Byron used it ([1] (http://www.bartleby.com/100/368.100.html)), so I don't know. It should certainly be a redirect, at the least. Adam Bishop 06:20, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- It gets two and a half million Google hits. It is worth mentioning as an alternative name. — Gulliver ✉ 19:31, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- I disagree. I just listened to a lecture from Modern Scholar (http://www.modernscholar.com/) and it was emphasized several times that it should be spelled 'Colosseum' because of the colossus statue of Nero. Spelling it other ways removes that bit of historical importance. --Patik 17:42, Jun 3, 2005 (UTC)
- It gets two and a half million Google hits. It is worth mentioning as an alternative name. — Gulliver ✉ 19:31, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
hi im a senior and i added some info to this article
The Roman Colosseum
I was inside this ancient Stadium in August 1970.
Legends say it was where Gladiators fought and died and animals sacrificed and Christians were Martyrd.
I was told by the tourguides that it was called such because it had many tall statues inside of the outer arches.
Legends said it was built on a lake bed and that there was an Artesian Spring nearby.
Nero built his palace over the lake and after it burned down the Stadia was built there.
Nero built the very first true Planetarium on this site, complete with a rotating dome!
I was told the Coliseum was converted into a Citadel after Rome was abandoned after 476 AD.
I was also told the marble and travertine stone was quarried to make quicklime for mortar to build much of Roma.
Some of the stone was used to make St Peters Cathedral and much of Vatican City.
There are many other Stadia in the Roman Empire.
One was unEarthed in Pompeii and another in Herculanium.
The Rock Band Pink Floyd gave a concert there about 30 years ago.
There used to be a convention center in New York City called the Coliseum where they had annual Auto Shows and Flower Shows.
It was torn down and the Time Warner Building is now there.
The New York Coliseum was replaced by the Javits Convention Center.
The New York Coliseum was not a Stadium, just a convention hall.
I only spell Coliseum with one "l" and one "s"
Supercool Dude 20:56, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)