Talk:Cormorant
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synonym shag
I wonder whether the geographical grouping is a good idea. Several species occur in more than one continent eg Great in Europe, Pelagic and Red-faced in Asia. It might be better to just give a straight list of the main genus, and sort out ranges more in species accounts. Some of these, Like Great cormorant, common shag and double-crested are bound to be written. 195.93.32.8 18:39 Apr 23, 2003 (UTC)
- I layed it out that way just as a start. Since I didn't have a complete list of the species, or what order they belong, I just did it that way. It can be changed. Kingturtle 22:01 Apr 23, 2003 (UTC)
Species found in Australia, New Zealand, and Antarctica:
- Great Cormorant or European Cormorant (Phalacrocorax carbo) (How can this one be named the "European Cormorant"? It's everywhere!)
- Pied Cormorant (Phalacrocorax varius) (cf "Yellow-faced cormorant" - same species, it appears. I'll check.
- Litle Black Cormorant (Phalacrocorax sulcirostris)
- Black-faced Cormorant (Phalacrocorax fuscescens)
- Little pied Cormorant (Phalacrocorax melanoleucos)
- Spotted Cormorant (Phalacrocorax punctatus)
- Pitt Cormorant (Phalacrocorax featherstoni) (cf Featherstone’s Shag.)
- King shag Phalacrocorax carunculatus
- Stewart Shag (Phalacrocorax chalconotus)
- Chatham Shag (Phalacrocorax onslowi)
- Auckland Shag (Phalacrocorax colensoi)
- Campbell Shag (Phalacrocorax campbelli)
- Bounty Shag (Phalacrocorax ranfurlyi)
- Imperial Shag (Leucocarbo atriceps) (Previously Antarctic, South Georgian, Heard, Crozet, and Macquarie Shags, Phalacrocorax bransfieldensis, georgianus, nivalis, melanogenis, and purpurascens.)
- Kerguelen Shag (Leucocarbo verrocosus) (Previously P. verrocosus.)
- I was going to incorporate these changes, but I ran into an edit conflict with you, so I'll leave it for now. I don't think that there is any point grouping geographically, probably simpler to put ranges in species accoubts. I'm astounded that Great cormorant gets to Oz. I assumed it was just Eurasia and Eastern N. Am. After today, I might be off line for a while, since I've got to fly to Edinburgh for a court case (witness, not defendant). Have you seen Talk: Crow? I'd be interested in your views on this. jimfbleak 11:59 Apr 24, 2003 (UTC)
- Indeed: HANZAB lists it as Aust, NZ, Eurasia, Iceland, Africa, N-E coast of N America, and Greenland, plus as a scarce visitor to New Guinea. Essentially, everywhere except W N America and S America. BTW, reply on other matters above on your talk page. Tannin
Do these statements contradict each other?
They range around the world, except for Asia and central Pacific islands. Humans have historically exploited cormorants' fishing skills, especially in Japan,
I have seen cormorant fishing in Yangshuo on the Li river in China, and also on the Grand Canal in Suzhou in China. Both Japan and China are in Asia. Kitten kaboodle 02:25, 6 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- and I've seen them in India and Sri Lanka - must be a mistake, so I've removed Asia, jimfbleak