Talk:Dogwood
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See note at Talk:Cornus - MPF 00:50, 28 Mar 2004 (UTC)
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Etymology
I question the accuracy of this statement recently added:
- It is called "dog" because of its deemed uselessness to human (not edible or lumber).
Dogwood was a highly prized wood for making the shuttles of looms; for tool handles, and other items that required a very hard and strong wood. Pollinator 12:34, 14 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- It's from OED. Dogwood's etymology says, "see dog-tree". Dog-tree says "see Dog-berry". Dog-berry says "See dog, definition 21". And Definition 21 says "applied to plants...unworthy to humans..inedible...". Etymology doesn't always (or usually) makes sense. That's why I intentionally used the adjective "deemed". It's an antiquated POV. --Menchi 19:34, 14 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- Interesting...thanks. Pollinator 00:02, 15 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- Two reputable sources I checked give the derivation as from dag wood, a dag being a wooden skewer, as in a dagger - MPF 22:16, 17 Apr 2004 (UTC)
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Pollination
Menchi posed this question on the page. I moved it here, at least temporarily: It is (ususually?) beetle-pollinated.
- I have been curious about dogwood pollination for many years. The flowers are typically very barren of any insect activity, so it must yield little nectar. In many years I have never seen a beetle on a dogwood blossom, so it must also be pollen-poor. Rarely, I see andrena bees and skippers visit the blossoms. Once (and it was notable because it was only once in many years of observation) I saw a honeybee working the blossoms. It could well be that they are self fertile and maybe even self pollinating, considering the rarity of insect activity. I will continue to watch (they are blooming right now). Pollinator 13:48, 17 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- Any possibility it could be night-flying insects? - MPF 22:16, 17 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- My question is not whether dogwood is bettle-pollinated, but if it's usually so. It does happen. Biology of Plants by Raven et al (6th ed) says "The flowers of beetle-pollinated plants are either large and borne singly...or small and aggregated in an inflorescene, such as those of dogwoods, elders, spiraeas, and many species of the parsley family." (page 531). I have flowering dogwoods in my neighbourhood but almost never seen any beetles here. So I cannot attest to frequency of such pollination either. --Menchi 06:33, 18 Apr 2004 (UTC)
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Ridiculous move
Some fool has turned Dogwood into a disambiguation page, in order to accomodate some punk band in LA. Thus ever reference to a dogwood will have to be linked as Dogwood 9plant). Too many twelve-year olds at Wikipedia. --16:30, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC) {unsigned by User:Wetman (Niteowlneils 17:50, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC))}
- Agreed wholeheartedly. Let's get it put back, a.s.a.p. I'll do what I can, but suspect it'll need admin assistance. - MPF 16:38, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- It's not "promotion", my intent was not vandalism, and attacks against my age are childish. Dogwood (the band) should be included in Wikipedia, as they are a very influential Christian punk band. It seemed to me that the best way to add the band would be by adding a stub band page, adding a disambig page, fixing the link to the plant, and then fleshing out the band page. I apologize if I was wrong in these steps, but there's no need to be rude. Jpers36 17:34, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
