Talk:Hot dog
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Picture with Hotdog
The Picture should show a hotdog with mustard as it is much more common and putting ketchup on hitdogs is a rare oddity.
What is a Polish dog?
- A kielbasa. - knoodelhed 10:17, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
I've never heard a hot dog referred to as a "tube steak"
- Me either, but a Google search (http://www.google.com/search?q=%22tube+steak%22+%22hot+dog%22) shows it used this way, so i think it's legit. Foobaz·✐ 23:26, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)
tube steak has been around for many years -- but it's used facetiously.... Hayford Peirce 16:58, 2 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Good, it's about time there was a decent picture of a hot dog here.... Hayford Peirce 19:54, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Name change?
I just reverted 152.163.100.130's blanking of the page. But, before he blanked it completely, he redirected it to Frankfurter. Is this a common name for hot dogs outside of the USA? If so, i think that may be a more appropriate name for the article, because as the article states, they are named hot dogs for political reasons. Foobaz·✐ 23:12, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- As an Australian, I've always called and heard the particular kind of sausage used in hotdogs called a frankfurts (or franks, with the adjective 'skinless' when they don't have the red skins). 'Hot dog' (or 'dog') refers to a frankfurt in a (long/hotdog) roll. I've never heard them called 'frankfurters', but I've seen it written often enough. If it's not a frankfurt, it's not a hotdog; bratwurst in a roll is just bratwurst, or a normal everyday sausage in a roll is just a sausage in a roll (though usually sausages go in bread, not rolls). I would never've called a hotdog a sandwich, though, like in the intro to the article, but I suspect that's a difference in my definition of sandwich; if you offered me a sausage sandwich I would think you sliced up a piece of sausage and put it between two slices of bread, perhaps with some other condiments. 203.82.183.147 10:11, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- I would have said they are clearly different things. A 'frankfurter' is a particular type of sausage, in the UK they are commonly sold in tins and cooked by boiling (however I would be surprised if these were considered authentic in Germany). Meanwhile a 'hot dog' is a dish of a sausage served in a long bun.
- The confusion perhaps arises because the frankfurter is the most common sausage used for making hot dogs in many areas (at least in New York, although it is not true where I live where grilled sausage hot dogs are much more common). As such frankfurters are also sometimes refered to as hot dogs even when not served in a bun. Oh, and that suggests the frankfurter disambig page is wrong to point back here. A better guide is to be had at h2g2 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A653744). -- Solipsist 22:11, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Indeed. In my British experience, hot dogs can be made with just about any kind of sausage. Sometimes a frankfurter, sometimes a soft sausage a little thicker than (what I know as) a frankfurter (typically labelled as "hot dog sausages"), sometimes a typical grilled/fried/barbecued/whatever sausage. -- Smjg 08:59, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
- Gimme a break, these are HOT DOGS not frankfurters. They've been called HOT DOGS for a century or so. Just as we wouldn't change French Fries to Freedom Fries cause Georgie B says so we also aren't going to change HOT DOGS to some out-of-date hickville term like frankfurters cause some bloke down underwhere says thats what his mommy calls them. Times change, buddy. And Australia has a grand total of 20 million people, half of them speaking English as a third language. (comment added by User:155.91.19.73 01:35, 26 Apr 2005 -- Solipsist 09:41, 11 May 2005 (UTC) )
- In New York they are most often called Franks, and that is what they have always been called at the frankfurter meccas of Nathan's and (the long gone) Feltman's as well as at any Kosher deli. Ditto the most popular cart franks by Sabrett's. The better variety of all of the forgoing have natural casings. "Hot dog" in NYC suggests the more bologna-like soft "skinless" sausage popular in a lot of the heartland. New Yorker's may not eat anywhere near the majority of franks/hot dogs in America, but we know our bun stuffings. Put it another way, if you put ketchup (or worse "catsup") on it, it's a hot dog, if you put mustard on it, as nature intended, it's a frank. -- Cecropia | explains it all ® 20:48, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
Kosher hot dogs
I changed the wording mentioned kosher hot dogs, which had several misconceptions. First, most consumers seeking kosher food in the U.S. and apparently other nations as well are no longer Jewish, no less observant Jews. Among other consumers who knowingly purchase Kosher foods are vegetarians (because of Pareve), Seventh-Day Adventists, some Muslims when they can't obtain what they want in Halal (dietary law is similar though not identical), and many consumers who perceive Kosher foods as being safer or of higher quality. BTW, an observant Jew almost certainly wouldn't buy a kosher hot dog at a sports stadium for lack of confidence in how it was prepared and handled. In fact, I have a Muslim friend in Brooklyn who won't eat at a Kosher restaurant until he's seen who certified the Kosher cert. No joke. -- Cecropia | explains it all ® 20:40, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
Regional Variations
After we get some more entries in this section, I was thinking about spinning it off into its own article. does that sound cool to everyone? Youngamerican 19:34, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I added something about White Hots and Red Hots. Here in Upstate New York, we have two types of hot dogs. Whenever I travel, people have no idea what I mean, but if you have ever had a white hot, then you would know it is a different type of hot dog and not a sausage. They can also be called Pork (White) or Texas (Red) Hots. Many restraunts around here offer both types. - martianpenguin
After some edits, I'm researching how dogs are eaten in various parts of the American South. I've been trying to get this as specific as possible and thank everyone for their contributions. Youngamerican 12:45, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
Recipie removed
Argue if you choose. Wikipedia isn't a place for general lists of information. I may be misinformed, so tell me if so. -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 04:14, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Yes, it has long been established that recipes go in [Wikisource (http://wikisource.org/wiki/Main_Page:English)]. -- Solipsist 05:47, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
NPOV Definition
I changed the definition at the top so there was some reference to what a hot dog is. It was reverted. My new definition read:
"A hot dog is the reprocessed flesh of dead non-human animals, classified as a type of sausage or, alternatively, a sandwich on a suitably shaped bun with the sausage and condiments on it."
This is a literal description of what a hot dog is. There is nothing "NPOV and redundant" about it. If someone disagrees, please make your comment here. Otherwise I am reverting back to my change.
- Above was by User:Cogent 15:09, 6 Jun 2005
- "Flesh" and "dead" have negative connotations. "Meat" would suffice, but "sausage" already means all of that. "Non-human animals" is redundant, and is also implied by "meat" or "sausage". If someone really doesn't know what a sausage is, they can click the "sausage" link. If you want to expose the hidden truth that meat is made out of dead animals, I think the Meat page would be a more appropriate place to do it.DenisMoskowitz 15:38, 2005 Jun 6 (UTC)