Talk:John Wayne
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- Draft dodger. Once defended the homosexuality of Rock Hudson.
The above sort of thing is, to put it nicely, ridiculous. When was he a draft dodger? What war? What difference does it make whether he defended Rock Hudson's homosexuality? Maybe this sort of information does have a place in a longer article about John Wayne, but just placed into contextless broken sentences, they express factoids that no one could be expected to take seriously. I don't think this is the way to write article stubs. Here is a bit about better stubs.
- Per IMDB: "He did well at school both academically and in football. When he narrowly failed admission to Annapolis he went to USC on a football scholarship 1925-7" What draft-dodger would ever apply to Annapolis? The only film in which Wayne and Hudson played together was The Undefeated where they were retired colonels from opposite sides of the US Civil War. Eclecticology
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- WHAT KIND OF LIBERAL LOGIC CAN BE SO NAIVE AS TO THINK THAT JUST BECAUSE WAYNE APPLIED TO ANNAPOLIS, HE WOULD NOT BE A DRAFT DODGER?? HE DODGED THE DRAFT FOR MONEY TO BE MADE BY BEING AVAILABLE IN HOLLYWOOD WHILE OTHER REAL AMERICANS WERE AT WAR, DEFENDING WAYNE'S BUTT. hE PROBABLY HAD A "HARD ON" FOR THE MILITARY AFTER HE COULD NOT GET INTO ANNAPOLIS. COME ON GUY, USE THE ONE BRAIN CELL YOU WERE GRANTED.
- The above comments were anonymously inserted in the midst of Eclecticology's.
Notice, also, that you wikified a number of words that actually have articles associated with them. If you knew what naming conventions we're following, you might have known how to link those words; you could also search (using the form at the bottom of the page) to find out what the exact names of the articles that you want to link to are. --Larry Sanger
My, that was ugly. Anyway, I've always heard him referred to as "the Duke" (or "The Duke"), generally not just "Duke", but that might have been different when he got the name as a child, as it's mentioned in the article. It should probably say "the Duke" in there somewhere, but I don't know if it should go in the childhood nickname mention, or as a later note that he became known as "the Duke". -- John Owens 04:54 May 8, 2003 (UTC)
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Lung Cancer
"Some trace his cancer back to his work in The Conqueror, filmed about 100 miles downwind of Nevada nuclear-weapons test sites."
Chaining smoking doesn't help I don't think.
Five packs a day for forty years will do it just fine.
Homosexuality
On 13 June - Powerpleb added:
"+ It has been alleged that John Wayne was homosexual although this is rejected by many of his fans."
I have trouble with the statement of him being gay as he fathered seven children. Rhymeless 07:51, 13 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Lets just stick to the FACTS please, if you have evidence, present it, if not. Everyone in the WORLD is an alleged homosexual, like Hugh Heffner, Ronald Regan, etc. Besides, he would be BI-SEXUAL, not homosexual, just ask Michael, Patrick, and the other Waynes.
I have read many books about Wayne (and those associated with him like John Ford) and talked to people who worked with him, and there is no evidence of him being homosexual or bisexual. According to film director and historian David Bradley. Wayne was easily dominated by women he was in relationships with, and never got over breaking up with Marlene Dietrich, but that does not establish him as being anything but heterosexual. And I am not one of those people who idolizes every aspect of his career ; while I certainly admire his work on the screen, I acknowledge some of his less than admirable behavior like his role in the blacklist or his occasional racist statements towards African-Americans, and am not a fan of his right-wing Catholicism nor his ultraconservative politics.
His War Career
- I'm the world's biggest fan of the movies of John Wayne -- I've essentially stopped going to movies since he made his last one, and of the perhaps 15 VHS movie tapes I own, 10 of them are pictures starring the Duke. But I also think that his career, or lack of it, in the armed forces, is germane to an entry about his life. I'm going to check on it in a moment, but I'm pretty sure that other stars such as Jimmy Stewart and Clark Gable had active roles in the Armed Forces, even on the battlefields.Hayford Peirce 01:30, 3 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Draft Dodger,or Not?
Wayne may have never went to war, but for a man who was risking to lose his career and marraige it would be a tough decision for anyone. i think fans and non-fans can agree he was no Audie Murphy, but he made great movies. Muhammed Ali didn't go, pretty sure he is still viewed as one of the, if not the best, boxer in history. John wayne made some, no a lot of good movies, and lets just leave it at that. -Jake Carley
Playing the lead
"According to the Internet Movie Database Wayne played the male lead in 142 of his film appearances, an as yet unsurpassed record." - surely Tom Mix (among others) exceeded this. Jooler 10:34, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)