Talk:Juggling
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photos and images
If you are going to add photos, images or animations to this page, make sure they are of a good quality. It really is no good to put a very, very poor quality gif animation at the top of the page, especially as it depicts a very unrealistic style of juggling. And it looks really, really bad. Please don't try to add it again.
records
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The numbers records I've listed are from the JIS Committee on Numbers as of September 2002, which are possibly not the most uptodate, but are at least solidly verifiable. I've reverted the ring record change that someone made from 11 to 10 as I've been unable to find any reference to anything better than Anthony Gatto's unverifiable personal records listing.
If you're going to update these records, please make reference to an independently verifiable source, preferably based on video. While Anthony Gatto's no doubt the best numbers juggler around, his personal training records do not constitute a primary source for world records. Also, make sure you know the difference between a flash and a juggle. Verifiable flashing records are 12 balls, 13 rings, and 9 clubs.user:oxymoron
- Thank you oxy, well said. I second that.Pedant
- I have extensively changed the records section, with added references to the JISCON as well as explaining the differences between flashing and qualifying runs. Also added are bounce records. Remember, we are editing an encyclopaedia here, not a how to page or a website of our personal views on what is or what isn't juggling.
"Modern independently verifiable records for the number of objects juggled (defined as at least two catches per object - a "qualifying run") are 10 balls, 10 rings, and 7 clubs. The less stringent requirement (at least one catch per object - a "flash") has been reached with 12 balls (beanbags), 13 rings, and 9 sticks (or 8 traditional clubs). It has been said that the limits of human ability lie around the 14-ball mark, though evidence to back this up is understandably scarce."
- Tony Gatto is possibly not the best numbers juggler, he is just the best that I've seen on videotape. I've also seen fake footage of other numbers freaks that purport to be record breakers. So please verify and double check sources. I have a whole bunch of clips of video I wish we could add to this, but no permissions... if you can get GNU licenceable footage of some numbers jugglers, that would be great. I'm going to shoot some footage of 3-5 ball tricks and devilstick juggling, basic maneuvers, on up to 'hog wild', but again, some numbers footage would be supercool. BTW I've added Toss Juggling article, intending to make this a hub article that covers the entire sport of juggling in general, you might want to fiddle with it. And feel free if you can write a good nonstub article on any redlinked juggling forms. I'll be working on these articles daily this week, so don't freak out if it looks different next time you see it. I don't delete anything, if it's missing, its on one of the sub pages. Anyone know any cigar box manipulators or other less well-known forms? Pictures? Prop descriptions? More patterns? Hula hoops?Pedant 03:58, 2004 Nov 7 (UTC)
Juggling tricks
I went ahead and added a small list of juggling tricks for expansion. Some of their names may need to be adjusted to not conflict with previously created articles. It also may be nice to create a whole seperate article to list and categorize the patterns. Ok bye!
Thanks, that works for me. If you know of any articles remotely related to juggling, feel free to link them at least to the Juggling article which I am considering a hub for the other articles. Might want to take a look at the (currently mostly lists) article at Circus and see if you can do anything on some of those redlinked references. If you feel like it. My goal is to bring Circus and Juggling up to featured article quality before the year ends. anyone up for that? Pedant 03:58, 2004 Nov 7 (UTC)
Jokes
This line:
"It has been said that jugglers are quite low down in the hierarchy of entertainment and performers... just below magicians but slightly above mimes. Jugglers, of course, disagree entirely. So do mimes, though their objections are rarely heard."
I like.
