Talk:Marie Curie

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"She and Linus Pauling are the only two people who have won Nobel Prizes in two different fields." Huh???? What about Einstein?

Einstein won it once, and not even for the theory of relativity, but for the photoelectric effect. Einstein did 4 major publications: in 1905, special relativity, the photoelectric effect, and Brownian motion; later, general relativity. However, he did only get once the Nobel. David.Monniaux 09:07, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Could someone in the know clarify what is meant by the "sometimes reeking of xenophobia" statement (in reference to the scandal). Is the article saying that xenophobic things were said about Marie in the press in reaction to the scandal?

That's exactly what it's saying. --Fastfission 02:22, 16 Jan 2005 (UTC)

article name should be Marie Skłodowska-Curie?

Listening to NPR's Talk of the Nation radio show about Marie Skłodowska-Curie, I heard the author of a recent book about her emphasize that she was proud of her original Polish surname "Skłodowska" and preferred that it be included in her name. I think that was said to be on her gravestone, and the common usage outside of France also. Can someone confirm this? I also see references to "Marie Curie-Skłodowska", and even "Skłodowski". --NealMcB 21:47, 2004 Dec 10 (UTC)

Looks like her dad's last name was Sklodowski, and hers was sklodowska - perhaps the spelling is due to difference in gender?

Maria Sklodowska was born as the fifth and youngest child of Bronsilawa Boguska, a pianist, singer, and teacher, and Wladyslaw Sklodowski, a professor of mathematics and physics.

http://www.staff.amu.edu.pl/~zbzw/ph/sci/msc.htm --NealMcB 16:32, 2004 Dec 11 (UTC)

http://www.polishroots.org/surnames/surnames_endings.htm about Polish surnames endings :)--Emax 16:42, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Polish adjectives have different forms for the genders. Surnames ending in -ski are regarded as adjectives, so they, too, reflect gender with different endings. Thus Janowski is the nominative form for a male; Janowska is the same form for a female.--Emax 16:42, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Maria (or Marie) Skłodowska-Curie is correct.--Emax 16:45, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I strongly disagree about the propriety of this renaming. Even what she wanted to be known by is less important than what she was known by. According to Wikipedia:Naming conventions (names and titles)

• Most general rule overall: use the most common form of the name used in English if none of the rules below cover a specific problem.

The Maria Sklodowska-Curie form should, of course, be listed in the opening paragraph and should be a redirect. Gene Nygaard 09:02, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

Thanks! See also: NPR Talk of the Nation Science Friday on her: http://www.npr.org/rundowns/rundown.php?prgDate=10-Dec-2004&prgId=5 --NealMcB 16:55, 2004 Dec 11 (UTC)

Great entry, but it tends to repeat itself in a number of places. Also, the grammar could use some polish.

One book on Curie (by Sarah Dry) says that her Polish name was "Manya" (Marie is the French version). Anybody know enough Polish, or enough about Curie, to know if that's true? --Fastfission 02:22, 16 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Her (Polish) name was "Maria". So, "Mania" was probably her nickname (but i'm not sure).--Emax 03:25, Jan 16, 2005 (UTC)

Nevertheless, moving the page to 'Maria Sklodowska-Curie' is a mistake. She is overwhelmingly known as Marie Curie. The Google test gives the ratio as something like 1,700,000 to 11,200. If you are now working through all the 'what links here' links, and they are all dab links for 'Marie Curie', that tells you there is a problem. Remember, Wikipedia naming convention puts a page at its most common usage so that if someone guesses a link they usually get it right. It has nothing to do with political correctness. As it stands at the moment the article doesn't even mention her French name in the lead paragraph, so anyone following a link for 'Marie Curie' can't even be sure they arrived at the right page. By all means mention and discuss her Polish name in the article, but leave the page where people would expect to find it. -- Solipsist 19:24, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

Removal of copyvio content

I have reverted to MOSforever's version because 24.13.141.112 added copyvio content from Britannica (http://www.britannica.com/nobel/micro/154_32.html). A couple of recent changes to the remaining content have been restored. GeorgeStepanek\^talk 20:56, 26 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Requested move

Maria Sklodowska-Curie → Marie Curie – She is overwhelmingly better known by the French version of her name, 'Marie Curie'. Maybe there is a PC or nationalistic reason to use the Polish name, but it is a long way from gaining common currency. I randomly checked half a dozen links from its 'WhatLinksHere' (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Whatlinkshere&target=Maria_Sklodowska-Curie) and as expected all of them were dab links for [[Maria Sklodowska-Curie|Marie Curie]], most interwikis use Marie Curie and the Google ratio is 1,700,000 to 11,200 in favour of Marie Curie. Of course the article used to be at Marie Curie and it looks like the change was made last December following comment on a recent biography. Personally I didn't notice until someone got round to updating the page links earlier this month. In any case it looks like a move that needs wider attention. — Solipsist 05:55, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

• Support. What Gene Nygaard and Solipsist said above. Niteowlneils 06:15, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
• Support, naturally. -- Solipsist 22:17, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
• Support. -- Philip Baird Shearer 10:28, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
• Support. violet/riga (t) 10:41, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

Template:Moved violet/riga (t) 10:41, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

The article should be moved back.--Witkacy 21:51, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 :) I'm impressed, that's a pretty stylish argument. However the issue over the article naming is not so much about the name Marie Curie/Maria Sklodowska-Curie liked to use herself, so much as the name most readers and editors would expect to use to find or link to the article. The list of links strongly suggests most people expect to find the article at Marie Curie.

Distinctions about the variations of name MC would have used at different times of her life is something that the article could usefully expand upon. Did she always use Maria Sklodowska-Curie, or was that only after Pierre had died? What name did she use for publication of their papers on radium and polonium? How is it that most of us know of her under the French version of her name? Also this diploma actually uses the first name Marie, not Maria or Manya as discuss above. -- Solipsist 20:59, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)