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Asa: Abbey came in from the 1911 encyclopedia, and i've been linking it as [abbey|monastery] for some time now. 'Abbey' is not nearly so common a word as 'monastery', but there you have it. We had an entry. I was lazy. We also have nice things at monasticism. There's nothing specific for orthodox monasticism other than Pachomius so far - the rule of St. Basil is not high on my list of priorities, though I have done some on the Rule of St Benedict. --MichaelTinkler


I would like to fix the disambiguation on this page with robbot if that is ok. about 100 pages link to this. Green Mountain 15:25, 5 Jan 2004 (UTC)

I guess if you want to do that, it's fine with me. I doubt there's any objections. -- user:zanimum
Someone told me that I had to get it authorized first, so Ill just stick to manual disambiguation for the time being. Green Mountain 22:34, 5 Jan 2004 (UTC)

I think Monk should have the article about religious monks and a page like Monk (disambiguation) should list the alternate meanings. The vast majority of the pages that link here are for the religious meaning, and even if those links are all fixed, in the future people are most likely to link here for the religious definition. Unless there's some great objection, I'll swap the pages around. --Minesweeper 06:07, Jan 11, 2004 (UTC)

Done now. --Minesweeper 11:09, Jan 12, 2004 (UTC)
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Gender issues with the term Monk

It is common in modern English to refer to Christian monks and nuns almost as separate entities. While this may be true for Roman Catholic monks and Nuns it is not true for the Eastern Orthodox Church. "Monastic" and "Monastery" are gender inclusive in this usage. The life of a male or female "Monk" is more or less identical. The early years of monasticism included many female monastics so it is somewhat misleading to refer only to the men of Egypt as going off and leading ascetic lives. St Mary of Egypt is a prime example of a female ascetic. From the Orthodox point of view, the monastic life(whether male or female) has little or nothing to do with running schools, hospitals, or orphanages; but rather the dedicated spiritual ascetic life of prayer, fasting, and labor. Phiddipus 13:13, 11 Nov 2004 (PST)

Non-Christian Monks

This article is well-written but focuses almost exclusively on monks in the Christian religion. Information about Buddhist monks, who pre-dated Christian monks by centuries, appears only in links and in an almost off-hand remark at the end about the martial arts. It could be that this article was written by a Christian who lacks information and insight into other religions. As Mark Twain said, humans have "the true religion...several of them." I think this article needs to be substantially rewritten in order to more evenly incorporate monks in non-Christian religions, especially Buddhism. Such a rewrite would require editing out some detail about Christian monks, if the article length is not to change. Just because the word "monk" orginated in Christianity does not mean that the phenomenon described is a mostly Christian one. I could write about non-Christian monks, but I am not sure I am the best candidate for that task.


Other Christian monks

From this article, one might assume that monasticism is peculiar to Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox chistendom. There are, of course, Anglican and Lutheran monks. It should probably also be noted that currently both the Roman Catholic archbishop of Boston and the Episcopal (Anglican) bishop of Massachusetts are monks. I expect this is the first time in Western christendom that one city has two monastic bishops. rockhopper10r 05:26, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Nitrian desert

The link onto Nitria unfortunately goes to the one in Moravia, not to the Nitrian desert (which seems to lack an article at all). Maybe someone better versed in these matters could compose a stub at least? --Oop 21:21, Feb 17, 2005 (UTC)

Militant Monks?

The Shaolin temple does not fit the dictonary term for militant, 'A fighting, warring, or aggressive person or party.' The teachings of Shaolinquan are those of self defense and never being an aggressor in combat. Plan to write an entire section on different sects of Buddhist monks, concentrating more on the teachings of bodhisattva and less on the 'kung fu' pop culture images. To Gfisch99, who mentioned writing the article.. let's get our collaborating shoes on and see what we can do! --Aika 18:45, Mar 30, 2005 (UTC)

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