Talk:Mushroom

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1 Fruit bodies 2 Thanks, marshman 3 Appropriate 4 Toadstool 5 basidiocarp 6 Not for Druggies 7 Alternative images 8 Removed disambiguation stuff at bottom 9 Mushrooms or what?

Fruit bodies

A lot more people know what "mushroom" means than what "fruit body" means; therefore, it doesn't actually help very much for purposes of explanation to a lay audience to say that the mushroom is the fruit body of a fungus. So, could we have an explanation of what "fruit body" means in this context? --LMS

Done. I would create a proper page for fruiting body, but I don't know enough to make anything more than a dictionary definition. -Smack 07:15 6 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Thanks, marshman

Thanks, Marshman, for your contribution of more mushroom photographs  :) Most of mine aren't digital (although a few are, such as my sulphur shelf photo).

And that is quite a picture! (sulphur shelf) - Marshman 02:22, 22 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Appropriate

Hey, if you want to move Nintendo/Mario stuff to the least signifiant place on the page, be my guest. It might even be suggested that the entry is inappropriate for this article - Marshman 21:53, 17 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Toadstool

Toadstool redirects to Mushroom now? Er, but the word doesn't even occur on the page. It was much better redirecting to Amanita muscaria - would anyone object to this being changed back? Suitov 14:20, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Only if that is the common name of A. muscaria. I did not think "toadstool" was that specific, but I do not use the word, so I may not be any kind of authority. Another solution is to prepare a brief paragraph explaining just what a "toadstool" is within the Mushroom article; it could then link to A. muscaria - Marshman 16:30, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I came to this talk page with the sme idea. Many people in England use the word toadstool to refer to the poisonous types and mushrooms for the edible types. To anyone with no interest in mycology mushrooms are the things you by in supermarkets and all the others are toadstools! I have never heard any suggestion that toadstool refers only to fly agaric before reading the wikipedia article.217.17.114.253 18:58, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. I've never had a "working" definition for 'toadstool' other than synonymous with mushroom - Marshman 03:36, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)

"Toadstool redirects to Mushroom now? Er, but the word doesn't even occur on the page." / "I came to this talk page with the same idea." Sorry if this me-too-ism, but... Me too! Of course "toadstool" means something different from "mushroom". According to the Collins English Dictionary: "Any basidiomycetous fungus with a capped spore-producing body that is poisonous" (my emphasis). -- Picapica 22:46, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)

It seems like we all agree that toadstool is not used uniformly. I was always told that any mushroom growing in the ground could be poisonous and I think my parents just called them al toadstools so I wouldn't eat them. --Gbleem 23:38, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I like the dictionary definition. That should be mentioned in this article. Beyond that, I see no reason to redirect "Toadstool" anywhere but to mushroom - Marshman 00:03, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Quite, and thanks for that edit, Marshman. I think the only thing that people found odd before was that having searched for "toadstool", one was previously directed to a page which had no mention of the word. That problem's now solved. -- Picapica 11:45, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)

basidiocarp

"The technical term for the spore-producing structure of "true" mushrooms is the basidiocarp. The term "toadstool" is used typically to designate a basidiocarp that is poisonous to eat."

This confuses me. Is the basidiocarp the entire fungus, the cap and stem or the cap alone? Which parts of a toadstool are poisonous. --Gbleem 23:17, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Not for Druggies

An external page on the use of mushrooms for drug users is not appropriate for this Wikipedia article, as the site appears commercial in nature and out of context for the Mushroom article. You may want to try and get it listed or linked from a drug use article. - Marshman 23:22, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Alternative images

Additional images that can be used on this page once there is more text to support it

The most overlooked, but common edible mushroom, this is sometimes used in soups.

This image is the cleaned up version of the image to the right.

Removed disambiguation stuff at bottom

I removed all the disambiguation junk at the bottom. My feeling is that kind of thing should go into a disambiguation article -- unless someone planned to develop it into something bigger? — FJ | hello 06:55, May 16, 2005 (UTC)

Clearly an improvement. Thanks - Marshman

Mushrooms or what?

Hey guys, shouldn't stinkhorns be removed from the list of edible mushrooms? Also a mushroom is an edible toadstool so truffles aren't mushrooms just fungi. Toadstools are the bits that grow out and look like umbrella's. - Wikk

If no one eats stinkhorns anywhere, they should be removed from the edibles list. And, although there seems to be a fair bit of disagreement as to what people have learned as the difference between mushrooms and toadstools, your interpretation may be a bit towards the fringe. The idea that a mushroom is an edible toadstool seems to be a reasonable but perhaps too literal interpretation of having a shape matching something a toad could or would sit upon. I may be wrong, but majority opinion might be closer to: mushrooms "are the bits that grow out and look like umbrellas" and toadstools are just poisonous mushrooms. You can see how the latter interpretations (reflecting the present article) are incompatible with your suggested changes. - Marshman 17:14, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)