Talk:Pickup truck
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- Typically, trucks with a load capacity of one tonne or less are regarded as pickups.
because vehicles larger than 1 ton capacity are considered pickups in the United States at least. —Morven 19:10, 21 Apr 2004 (UTC)
South African Utes
I know that the Ford Bantam compact (Fiesta-based-IIRC) ute is very popular in South Africa and has been for decades. Perhapse someone who knows more about South African utes could add that info to the article: like what other manufacturers make them? (AFAIK Mazda used to when the Bantam was a 323 clone). -- stewacide 05:01, 14 May 2004 (UTC)
This article needs some history. The first pick up was actually an Australian invention, but the idea rapidly spread to the US and has become mostly thought of synonymous with the US. I have some details about this somewhere but not sure if it's enough to write authoritatively. I will do so if no-one else feels better qualified though. Graham 00:25, 11 Jul 2004 (UTC)
- I'd imagine that 'first pickup truck' depends on one's definition of pickup truck. Daimler's first truck (http://www.cms.daimlerchrysler.com/emb_classic/0,,0-195-78765-1-84546-1-0-0-0-0-0-434-78641-0-0-0-0-0-0-1,00.html) in 1896 looked somewhat pickup like, for example.
- I would suspect that the definition in use for that Australian claim is first car-based pickup, which is a possibility. Some cites would be nice. —Morven 06:20, Jul 11, 2004 (UTC)
- here's a page that actually contradicts the australian origin: [1] (http://www.pickuptruck.com/html/history/segment1.html). I' e had little luck tracking down much evidence to supporting the australian claim - i read about it in a popular science book (published in australia) so it may well have got its facts wrong. The other thing is that it may be drawing a distinction bewteen what the australians calla "ute", and the pickup. As far as I can see in modern forms they are the self same thing, but earlier on they might not have been.Graham 01:50, 15 Jul 2004 (UTC)
- The modern day ute design is indeed based on the Australian design first manufactured at Ford in Geelong. But yes Ford offered a number of light utility trucks such as the Ford Models T and A. But the modern design came from Australia. Yeah it would be good if someone could write something... im quite tired. Something needs to be added about Australian Ute culture as well.... its huge (even though I detest it myself ;)) and I would presume larger than the American Ute culture. Check out Australian Ute Musters. Utes are considered as Australian as Apple pie is considered American. Some articles on Ute history are [2] (http://www.theopenroad.com.au/motoring_inthemarket_utes.asp) [3] (http://www.pickuptruck.com/html/history/segment1.html). - UnlimitedAccess 16:09, 26 May 2005 (UTC)