Talk:Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
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Somebody has listed History of Pittsburgh on the VfD list. Should it be moved back here? Why was it moved out in the first place? Martin 14:47 27 Jul 2003 (UTC)
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Population
What is the source for the population figures? I think the source should be referenced in the article. Also, it is a little bit misleading to list the population loss of Pittsburgh itself, since the city of Pittsburgh is just a tiny portion of the urban area. Pittsburgh is surrounded by numerous townships which would have been incorporated into any other city. I think the population of the Pittsburgh metropolitian area should be listed next to the population of city itself. AdamRetchless 17:12, 29 Jun 2004 (UTC)
transportation
I removed the following from the mass-transit section
- If you are traveling inbound on any bus, train, or incline, you pay as you board. If you are traveling outbound, you pay as you exit the vehicle. As of 2004, the fare is $1.75. Transfers, which are good on any Port Authority vehicle, cost $0.50, and are valid for 3 hours. Students at some universities in the Pittsburgh area can ride the mass transit for free with a student ID.
- This information is too detailed for an encyclopedia article. If a person wants to know how to use this bus system, they should be directed to the PAT webpage.
- This information is inaccurate: The rules for when you pay do not apply to all routes, and the routes that do use that system only use it during the workday. I also suspect that the statement about universities is incorrect, as this deal is arranged by each university, and there are several universities in the area.
AdamRetchless 02:46, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)
I agree with AdamRetchless
I know they don't, but I think Allegheny County should be considered the City Of Pittsburgh. Thus making the population 1+ Million.
NPOV
While I didn't make the edits (I'd rather have the discussion first), we as a community need to be more aware of comments like "Pittsburgh is widely believed to be right behind San Francisco as the steepest city in the United States."- I am not sure that view is "widely held" or has any factual basis at all. It is more of an observation- one that I can certainly vouch for as I too live in Pittsburgh- but lacks any factual merit. Or "Pittsburgh has done remarkably well in the face of the Steel Industry collapse." 1st- I am not sure that is true at all- The city is currently bankrupt and is on a sort of probation under a special act of the Pennsylvania government. Pittsburgh has lost nearly half its population since the industry collapse. The property values in and around the city have decreased (relative to inflation) steadily over the past two decades. My point is we must be careful to abstain from this "colorful" type of writing when attempting to create encyclopedia articles. Let's stick to the facts. Comments, suggestions?
- The first point I don't have a problem with, I'm sure we could get a few sources in support if it came to a debate. The second issue is clearly POV but seems to have been fixed already. Christopher Parham (talk) 01:26, 2005 May 26 (UTC)