Talk:Psychiatry
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I think this list is pretty good and I find the list long enough for a general encyclopedia. However, it would better be organized a little bit. All these diseases may be classified as a.psychoses (organic, functional), b.neuroses or psychoneuroses, c.personality disorders, d.others (psychosexual disorders, disorders of childhood, disorders of impulse control etc.). But, I think organizing the whole list requires a psychiatrist rather than a neurologist. On the other hand, narcolepsy and Tourette's syndrome are definitely not psychiatric disorders. Their organic etiologies were identified ErdemTuzun.
- OK. This is just a starting point.
- Anyway do we have psychiatrists here ?
- This page could be a short description with subpages.
- One example would be :
- Alphabetic list :
- Disorders starting with A
- Disorders starting with B
- etc
- Nosological list :
- A
- B
Kpjas
- I think we should also pay attention to the fact that not all of these illnesses, perhaps, are always spelled with capital letters--in which case, the articles about those illnesses shouldn't be so spelled either. Please see naming conventions. --LMS
Psychiatry vs Psychology
More information on the differences between psychiatry and psychology would also be welcome: I know psychiatry requires medical training but what else makes a psychologist or psychiatrist? --User:Axon
- The article essentially says it: psychiatrist - studied medicine, then formal specialist trainig in psychiatry; psychologist - studied psychology, then may specialise (formally?) in various fields of which psychotherapy is only one. Kosebamse 09:24 May 9, 2003 (UTC)
Thanks for the feedback. I have to admit I'm still a little confused: why have the two seperate disciplines? --User:Axon
- Note from Tim Nelson (not a Wikipedian, but happened to be here): Here's what I've picked up. Think of a biologist vs. a doctor. A Psychologist is like a biologist; more general, probably more academic, more prone to inventing Grand Unified Theories of Human Systems. A Psychiatrist is more like a doctor, focussed on illnesses and cures. There's a theoretical side here too, but similarly focussed. Then, in the physical field, you have a number of associated personnel; specialists in particular problems (dentists) or kinds of cures (myotherapists?, naturopaths?), or in *improved* health (personal trainers). I don't know what these are in the mental world, but I think the self-help movement (or whatever you call Tony Robbins, the NLP crowd, Win Wenger, the PhotoReading people, and all those) fit into this category.
- Like I hope I implied, I'm just guessing here, but it's an educated guess. HTH
Domain
...which is one of the things about Psyciatry I find particularly notable. As soon as a medically proven and remediable condition is found for an erstwhile "psychiatric" condition, the condition immediately becomes medical and no longer psychiatric - which leaves psychiatry with only those conditions which cannot be predicted, proved or cured. Hmmm...
- Add "defined" to that list. For example, see Talk:Antisocial_personality_disorder, Delusion#Diagnostic_issues, and Schizophrenia#Diagnostic_issues_and_controversies. A book on which the marginalization, imprisonment and mistreatment of so many people is based cannot accidentally have such logical errors.
- -Anonymonster
Anti-Psychiatry
Seen where? I have worked in psychiatry (in Finland) almost a decade an have not encountered this kind of movement.
jps 21:24, Jul 12, 2004 (UTC)jps
- See Anti-psychiatry. It would be great if you could add more to this article (Psychiatry not Anti... because as it stands the Anti has the longer article. I feel this one is rather short at the moment. --bodnotbod 00:38, Jul 19, 2004 (UTC)
- Somehow "politicized" movement opposes vague "practices" of psychiatry. It's vague POV. “Some”, overrepresented in the article, state that “selective financing by large multinational drug companies” and UFO riding space aliens (possibly the implied comparison in the article) “of high ranking professional psychiatrists, research and educational material has led psychiatry to be subversively, and in some cases inhumanely”, and supposedly, “misled”.
- Look, anti-psychiatry is not politicized in the sense that it has a hidden political agenda. It is itself the politics. The article exaggerates a focus on (probably true) paranoid conspiracy theories. This, on the other hand, might be POV, but is at least neutral enough to be true to subject as much as any POV can be:
- "Modern antipsychiatric views point to the:
- 1) inherent vague, untestable and thus pseudoscientific nature of psychiatry and psychology, including the definitions of key mental illnesses.
- 2) severity of involuntary commitment, especially considering the minor illnesses for which society is eager to involuntarily commit its members.
- 3) explicit inclusion in the diagnostic criteria, for involuntarily committable illnesses, a mere difference from what the psychiatrist subjectively believes is normal or appropriate on some inherently subjective topic like culture, philosophy, religion, or politics. (See Delusion, Psychopath, and Schizophrenia.)
- 4) subjectivity of the diagnosis of Schizophrenia.
- 5) involuntary commitment of those who have not been charged with any crime, those whom the court has vindicated as not guilty by reason of the insanity defense, and those who allegedly belong in a regular - and allegedly thus more humane – ‘prison’.
- 6) unconstitutionality of involuntary commitment.
- 7) far higher diagnosis of Schizophrenia for those in the USA and ‘second generation African Caribbeans living in the United Kingdom’ despite the commonly equivalent rate of Schizophrenia in a variety of cultures.
- 8) disproportionate prescription of high doses of "anti-psychotic" medication to young black males in the United States, and the disproportionate involuntary commitment of blacks.
- In response, many diagnosed with a mental illness or illnesses, and their family members and close friends claim that antipsychiatric views are somehow contrary to their own experience with mental illness. They believe that mental illness produces real and terrible suffering which psychiatry and social treatment programs have been effective in relieving.
- Their experience does not adress what modern antipsychiatric views point to, however." FET 10:52, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Or, rather, "Their experience is an acceptable argument, just not a counter argument." And please keep the link to Anti-psychiatry. FET 10:03, 9 Oct 2004 (UTC)
What is a psychiatriast vs psychologist
Kay Redfield Jameson may be a professor of Psychiatry, affected by psychiatric illness and an expert on some aspects of psychiatry. However, she is not and has not been a psychiatrist. There are very specific training requirements to becoming a psychiatry, which only begin with attending a medical school.Why is she on the list? 16:24, Aug 09, 2004 (UTC)sof
- I've made it clearer -- she's a prominent figure in psychiatry (indeed, a professor of psychiatry at a famous med school), but is a psychologist, not a psychiatrist. -- The Anome 17:00, 9 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- Sigmund Freud is included in the list of "Famous figures in psychiatry" but he was certainly no psychiatrist (he was a neurologist), and the field of psychoanalysis which he introduced was severely attacked by psychiatrists for decades. Are we sure that his name belongs on this list? (That's a real question; I'm of a mixed mind about it myself and should no doubt visit an analyst ...) DSatz 05:39, Feb 23, 2005 (UTC)
Anti-psychiatry
User:Irmgard removed the bolded text from the following paragraph:
- A few prominent critics of psychology and mental illness in general include Thomas Szasz, the author of "The Myth of Mental Illness", who founded One organization in 1969 together with the Church of Scientology the Citizens Commission on Human Rights (CCHR), and Peter Breggin, the author of Prozac Backlash, as well as other books criticizing the use of psychiatric drugs.
As Irmgard left no explanation, this information will be restored.--AI 18:44, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)