Talk:Security cracking
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Regarding the cracker/hacker debate. I feel the word cracker is pejorative and POV. Of course, it should be mentioned that some people call people who hack into computer systems with the permission of some soi disant authority call hackers "crackers", or whatnot. An example of a POV error is saying it is incorrect to call a so-called cracker a hacker. According to whose authority? If we go by the Wikipedia common names rules, the mainstream media almost always calls people who break into computer systems hackers, not crackers. So who is this authority saying the pejorative term crackers should be called hackers? It's not common usage, it's pejorative, and it's POV. You can mention some people call them crackers, but it is not a "fact" that to call hackers hackers is incorrect. And yes, I know hackers like Steve Wozniak do stuff like design computer systems. Actually, Steve Wozniak used to design blue boxes to make free telephone calls from Bell as well, so he was a hacker in terms of "unauthorizedly" hacking Bell, as well as hacking the Apple together without any authority getting mad at him. Long John Silver 01:31, 4 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- According to most people, the monitor is the computer and the computer is called the "CPU". So is it POV to use the correct terminology? Those who are in the field get to define technical terms. As for pejorative, yes of course its perjorative. Most crackers are lowly lifeforms (Morris isn't, but that's because he wasn't primarily a cracker). Do you want to call a robber something else because robber is 'pejorative'? Arvindn 03:09, 24 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- Please, the According to most people, the monitor is the computer and the computer is called the "CPU". argument is ridiculous, as there is a definitive source for their names; the people who have created these products. The term "hacker" though is one that has had a long evolution to it. The meaning of the word has changed, only the "hacker/cracker"ists seem to refuse to accept this. --Golgo13 14:19, 23 Nov 2004 (UTC)