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Previous discussions:

• Archive 1 (2001 to March 2005) - Disscussion on how to define Social Worker and to what extent extreame or unprofessional behaviour should be included in the entry. The user Clutch who was at the centre of the debate appears to have been banned - at least for the time being.

Contents

1 Addition Requests 1.1 North American Bias 2 Proposed Deletions 3 Other Dicussions / Questions / Requests

Addition Requests

I think we should take a look at the physician page There is a section on training and regulation that we should add and move things into. I also messed around and tried to organize the activities of SW section... feel free to modify as neccessary - but I think we need some sort of organization. Graniterock 07:35, Mar 3, 2005 (UTC)

North American Bias

If anybody has knowledge of Social Work from an International Context please add away. I know there is great diversity in the profession yet this article is very Clinically focused and ignores much of the community development / activist orientations that exist in many places around the title. I had a friend once tell me not to ID myself as a Social Worker in certain countries as they think of you as a troublesome activist (although not all activists are troublesome IMHO)

Proposed Deletions

Debating if entire Examples of Documented Abuses should be removed. If you look at other professions webpages ie. physician, they do not have such sections and we all know there are abuses in all professions. The goal is not to document extreame behaviour but typical. If need be, perhaps a second wiki entry should be created for the topic of Social Work Abuses. Unless we're talking international news which will be remembered for years it's not relevant for the audience of Wikipedia. However maybe we should go in baby steps. I propose that the following paragraphs either be deleted or shrunk into a few sentences because they effectively cancel each other out:

Also, there have been several scandals involving false testimony about alleged child sexual abuse. In these cases, often referred to as modern witchhunts, it is generally acknowledged that some social workers, not sufficiently trained and often overzealous, created false memories through suggestive questioning. Internationally, many courts are now rejecting this type of testimony.

It seems that many of the people that are associated with this type of behavior are not professional social workers at all, but mearly government or agency employees who have the job title of social worker. Professional social work, in the United States, requires a degree from an CSWE accredited social work program. In many states, workers are regularly hired without a degree in social work. It is hard to hold a profession accountable for people who are not really members of the profession.

Please reply in favour or against - if time passes and I hear nothing I will proceed. Graniterock 07:35, Mar 3, 2005 (UTC)

I am in favor, the section could easily be shrunk or moved. Thanks! --Vorpalbla 3/6/05

Thanks for the feedback I had already deleted an documented abuses section - I agree the critisms could definately be shrunk. If someone else doesn't do it... I'll get around to it when I have some time to draft something. Graniterock 04:27, Mar 7, 2005 (UTC)

I was looking for information on social work and that section seemed jump out. It doesn't really seem to be very NPOV to me. 205.211.52.30 15:03, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Other Dicussions / Questions / Requests

I've been moving country specific information into their own categories. I feel this is important due to the diverse nature of international Social Work. I think the long term goal of these sections as they expand is to make country specific pages. --Graniterock 04:24, May 5, 2005 (UTC)