Talk:South America
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Perhaps I should put up an version of the map labelled in English? --Brion VIBBER
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Regions
Other than directional regions (Northern) are there more creative names for regions in South America? For instance the Andean States, Caribbean South America.
- In political or economic terms, the Andean Community and Mercosur cover just about everything and offer a handy north-south split. The three odd-men-out used to be known as "the Guianas", but maybe that's lost some currency since (2/3) independence. There's no other universally accepted system for subdividing the continent up into smaller groupings. –Hajor 17:54, 4 Jul 2004 (UTC)
- What about Chile? I don't think it belongs to any of those groups? acc to links
- Chile's got 'associate member' status in Mercosur, which is as close as you'll get. And Bolivia is kind of in both (hedging its bets?). It's not an exact science... –Hajor 23:32, 4 Jul 2004 (UTC)
- I find it odd that Chile, or Argentina aren't part of the Andean Community. Is that just a name for the group? Cuz I know Chile is kinda famous for the Andes.
- Word. Argentina and Chile share the highest mountain in the Andes, but they're not in the Andean Community. It's just the name of the group: compare with European Union (and the European countries not in it). –Hajor 17:53, 5 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Physical South America
Some well-linked basic geology should replace the bald list of nations opposite the physical map, since the same list, in tabular form (by populations) is repeated just below. If on the whole this entry seems over-mapped just now, that's because it's severely under-texted. Wetman 00:32, 10 Jul 2004 (UTC)
- Okay. Thanks for clearing that up, Hajor!
- And, to confuse matters even further, just today Vicente Fox went and applied for associate membership status in Mercosur for Mexico. Commercial interests outweighing geography... –Hajor 22:06, 8 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Panama, border between american continents
Panama is not listed as South American state. Why? Where is the border between North and South America?
I think that it should have some South American territory too - if not, then Columbia should have some North American territory - becouse it is highly unlikely that former colony or current state borders are drawn EXACTLTY on purely geographical continent borders.
- Geographical boundaries can be just as arbitrary as national borders. Look at the boundaries between Asia, Europe, and Africa, and the controversies that have ensued here. That said, I think you have a valid point. However, it would be best to have some sort of reference to a widespread or widely respected definition of these borders before putting something in the article. My references divide North and South America at Panama's border with Columbia, and if that means that the boundary between the two continents has been conveniently moved to coincide with the national boundary, it wouldn't be anything unusual. --Yath 16:15, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- I agree with you, but I am sure that there is a RIGHT classification... I have checked one source and it included much more to South America - Belize, Nicaragua, etc. - only Mexico, Canada, USA and some caribbean islands were included in North America. That dosn't seem correct. I think about Panama to be both North/South, becouse Columbia is undisputably in South America, the reasons about geographical/political borders, the shortest distance between Atlantic and Pacific Oceans is in Panama, so I think this place can be "taken" as the North/South border - at least it is a geographical feature (like Sea, river, mountain etc. in Europe/Asia), not some human-made political one...
TRINIDAD
Trinidad-Tobago is clearly part of South America.
- Whoever wrote that--why? All the references I've found include it among the Caribbean states, which makes it part of Central America, which makes it part of North America. I admit, it does seem a little bit stupid, with it being so close to the South American coast, but continental boundaries are not always logical. It's also right near the Lesser Antilles, and the Netherlands Antilles aren't that far from the South American coast either. Find some references that say that Trinidad & Tobago is in South America, recent ones; until then, I'm putting it back in North America. Alfvaen 03:41, Jan 12, 2005 (UTC)
Proper usage of "invaded"
...indigenous inhabitants of South America were invaded by European conquistadors...
People can be invaded by parasites, infectious agents, etc. Territory is what is invaded by people – conquistadors et al. This should be rephrased, methinks. Kbh3rd 01:27, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
