Talk:Ultimate frisbee
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Good job on all the rule edits, people. :) This article is taking shape.
Also, has anyone recently played at a hat tournament that made the teams up by actually using names physically drawn from a hat? I am aware that that was the origin of the name, but I'm also pretty sure none of the hat tournaments I've been to used such a method. Jarsyl 05:25, 2004 Aug 24 (UTC)
This is true for the hat tournaments that I've played in, in australia, portugual, spain and the uk. There is the use of several hats with a catagory for various skill levels and gender. sometimes cerial packets are used instead of hats. Aug 10, 2004
Perhaps a note that time-outs are called only by the team in possession (right?).
Also, since "savage" is mentioned, I thought it only natural that its complement, "hell" (= when a team scores to tie the game, both scores reset to 0), be mentioned. But then you have to decide how much Ultimate jargon (http://mypage.direct.ca/r/rulegal/all.html) you want to include here. Perhaps there should be an Ultimate Terms page?
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Ultimate terms...
Might not be a bad article...just need to make sure we're not just copying ultilingo.
terms
I merged the Ultimate Terms into the section of the this main article (sorry, Wikibofh), but definitely feel free to add items you see fit. For instance, I was playing a few weeks ago, and someone had to explain "give and go" to me. --Christopherlin 21:52, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)
no worries...
That's fine...still working on learning the conventions and it makes sense either way.
Wikibofh 16:47, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)
League links...
I'm not sure it's appropriate to be putting location specific leagues into "external links". I'd argue for either a separate section or a link to a standard web location that has these. I think both UPA and Ultimatehandbook have something like this.
Frisbee or frisbee?
Good article. I've always seen the name written with a capital F, though, as Frisbee is a proper noun (brand name). What is the reason then that this article is here and Ultimate Frisbee is a redirect? Nickptar 15:36, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
- Well, Frisbee is a brand name, and trademarked as such, and to the best of my knowledge Wham-o hasn't lost that protection...that being said the standard for Wiki is to not capitalize the second word of a title for something like this, and frisbee is being considered in the generic, non-TM, case. Capital F is probably more correct, but only a niggling difference, so I don't let it worry me. That and I hate playing with Wham-o disks. :) Wikibofh 16:21, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
- If the article is going to include "Frisbee", it should indeed be capitalized (it's their trade name, even if very genericized). That said, for quite some time the "official" (for example, the term used at [1] (http://www.upa.org)) name has been plainly "ultimate", and that or "ultimate (sport)" is probably a better page name, with "Ultimate Frisbee" and "Ultimate frisbee" being redirects. -- Kaszeta 19:10, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
Amherst connection...
There have been several edits that deal with Ultimate starting in Amherst. I've been removing these as unsourced and contrary to the consensus of NJ. We should discuss this before we add them back and try to find sources. The best I've heard so far is that they made t-shirts that claimed it. I'm also not really happy with the "first and largest children's league" because it's unsourced, but I don't have information that contradicts it, so what the hay. :) Wikibofh 22:16, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
about the childrens leauge, my relatives started it it it is 250 kids strong. about the origin of Ultimate, in vol. 25 no. 1 spring 2005 Ultimate News (UPA run) states that (Quoting) "There, Jared Kass, a 21-year-old Amherst College student working as a creative writing teaching fellow and a dormitory, along with other student-teachers, exposed (Joel) Silver to a still-evolving game played with a plastic disc. by that time, Frisbees, sometimes known as Pluto Platters, had become fairly common..." in your sources, it cites that he played at northfield mt hernon in MA, where my article says he was taught by Jared Kass. Jeremybub 22:20, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
- Holy crap...I asked someone to cite a source for their facts and they did. *gasp* *clutch chest* :) Good job. Let me look at the sources and try to figure out how that works in or you can. I think him exposing him is a little different than the start of Ultimate, but I definitely think that Jared and Amherst deserve to be mentioned. Good job, and thanks! Wikibofh 23:47, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
- That sounds like a pretty big kids league all right. I would even believe it's the largest. I'm also not happy with the largest league claims, but don't know of any reliable sources for numbers, so I don't worry too much about it. Here are sources on Ultimate starting in NJ.
- Wikibofh 22:22, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
"Dickie"?
Is this an actual term that people use? I ask because I have never heard it used, it was an anonymous user (on his/her first contribution) who added it, and it sounds like the kind of thing someone would add as a joke, so I just want to fact-check. -- ericl234 talk contribs 08:48, Jun 8, 2005 (UTC)
- Never heard of it. Looks like a personal attack. I reverted it out. Wikibofh 13:20, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Daredevil discs...
Can anyone show where they are UPA approved for competition (ie, not including the Captain's exception)? I couldn't find it in some quick searches. Wikibofh 20:23, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
