Talk:Wasp
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This page needs a lot more information
Social & Reproductive behaviour, etc, etc.
Ethnonym
Is it also an acronym for "White Anglo-Saxon Protestant", or am I Wrong? --G
I thought, though I may be wrong, that it was originally WASPS - White Anglo-Saxon Protestant Settler, but the S sometimes disappears because people think the 's' was to make it plural, not part of the acronym. STÓD/ÉÍRE 03:01 Apr 10, 2003 (UTC)
- Never heard of that form, at least not in the US. People going West were more likely to be called "pioneers" than "settlers", and much of the use of WASP was to distinguish the city-dwelling descendants of the English from Irish, Italians, Jews, and other undesirables :-), and "settler" would have been nonsensical in that context. Perhaps WASPS was used in Africa or Australia?? Stan 03:15 Apr 10, 2003 (UTC)
No. It was meant to refer to an American elite descended from the first settlers and so predate later waves of emigration. STÓD/ÉÍRE 03:23 Apr 10, 2003 (UTC)
- It's certainly a possible etymology, but for instance my English ancestor that arrived in the 1860s would have been considered a WASP, and not, say, the 17th century settlers of the southern colonies who were Catholics. Presumably somebody has researched this already though. Stan 05:07 Apr 10, 2003 (UTC)
- BTW Google on '"white anglo-saxon protestant" baltzell' shows quite a few citations of the term having been coined by E. Digby Baltzell in the early 1960s, and just as WASP. Stan 05:13 Apr 10, 2003 (UTC)
Layout
Of course, the best way to make the image fit better would be to fill up that space to the left of it with info. <g> -- John Owens 05:33 Apr 10, 2003 (UTC)
Phylogeny reference
The best online treatment of Hymenoptera phylogeny found so far is this description of the Order HYMENOPTERA (http://research.amnh.org/entomology/social_insects/training/hymintro.html). Paragraphs 3,4, and 5 detail the the Symphyta and the Apocrita.--azwaldo
Wasp images
- I used the newer image markup for the drinking wasp image thinking it would help with the problem that the horizontal rules draw right thru it (on my browser, anyway); it didn't help. So whichever.
- I added a wasp building a nest. I have no idea what kind of wasp. If anyone can identify it or suggest a better place for the photo, I'd be delighted to hear. I tried reading thru existing assorted wasp articles, including Yellowjacket, Paper wasp, Vespid, which seemed like possibilities, but I just don't know. Elf | Talk 22:36, 16 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- It's a Polistes wasp.Pollinator 02:13, 17 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- Incidently the photo is rotated 90 degrees from the correct orientation. The "stem" of the nest should be at the top. Pollinator 02:16, 17 Mar 2004 (UTC)
