Talk:WordPerfect
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a note for any wordperfect fan that might happen to see it: what are "reveal codes"? -- Tarquin 13:08 Sep 26, 2002 (UTC)
It's like, say, if you used a web page editor, being able to flip between the page as displayed on a browser, and the page as HTML code, so you can see where that pesky & persistent italics tag is hiding in the text. It's the main feature that a WP user misses on being forced to use Word -- Malcolm Farmer 13:31 Sep 26, 2002 (UTC)
- Thank you :) (wow! wikipedia is fast!) -- Tarquin
I took out the WYSIWYG link in the description of the Reveal Codes edit mode, because WP had Reveal codes right back when it was just a DOS program and didn't do anything like what we now call WYSIWYG -- Malcolm Farmer 14:07 Sep 26, 2002 (UTC)
Well I would have called its normal editing mode "WYSIWYG" even in the DOS days--which is the last I used it (4.2, if I remember correctly), in that in normal editing mode it showed the page as it would be laid out, showed bold characters and underlined italics, etc. Yes, it was just a text screen, but it was "WYSIWYG" in the sense that it didn't show anything that wasn't actually printed, and it showed stuff as close as it could to what would be printed. True, it didn't have fonts and colors and such, and maybe you have to have that these days to be considered "WYSIWYG". --LDC
Perhaps call it "formatted display"? "WYSIWYG" really means that what is on-screen is an exact rendering of the printed version, typeface, size, effect, line width and all -- Tarquin
I removed "(At least one law firm had problems from submitting a Word-edited document that exceeded the maximum allowed word count because Word did not count the footnotes)"...it is hearsay, and incidental. One law firm out of 100,000s had problems. This is anecdotal at best. The sentence needs a great deal of re-work if it is going to be of use. Kingturtle 20:39 Apr 13, 2003 (UTC) Also, I removed "External link: (problems with Word's word count) http://www.kentlaw.edu/7circuit/1999/jul/99-1754A.html " because the link is broken. Kingturtle 20:41 Apr 13, 2003 (UTC)
I also removed "The market seems to have disagreed with the WordPerfect faithful" because it is vague and not neutral. "The market seems" and "WordPerfect faithful" need to be re-worded. The entire sentence needs to be re-thought. Kingturtle 20:47 Apr 13, 2003 (UTC)
Actually the word count problem is not hearsay: there was an actual court case where the judge scolded lawyers using MS Word who got the wrong count. A quick google search turned up the original link: http://laws.lp.findlaw.com/7th/991754a.html
Perhaps WP Corporation can get its own entry? Maybe after I read "Almost Perfect" I'll know enough to write up something decent... :) --Krupo 06:49, 7 May 2004 (UTC)
I've been using WordPerfect since 1985 and have written 17 books on it and millions of words and love it. And I hate Word. Nevertheless, I feel that there were many POV or semi-POV phrases in the article that had to be edited.Hayford Peirce 02:42, 19 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Unlike Word, all editions of WordPerfect since version 6 also use the same file format, making it easy for users to share documents between newer and older copies.
You can't say "Unlike Word" because that implies that Word and WordPerfect share the same file format, or have the same version 6. Indeed, Word files are compatible from Word 97 to Word 2003. The phrasing as-is implies a non-NPOV, so I recommend removing the comparison to Word in that sentence. --Ilya 17:55, 30 Jul 2004 (UTC)
- There might be a way to clarify the wording on that, but the phrase is correct in asserting that WP's file formats have been the same since version 6. Word changed formats between version 6 and 97 (aka "7"). Word users also report myriad problems between file formats, but that's another story. :) Krupo 03:45, Aug 21, 2004 (UTC)
WordPerfect and Borland
WordPerfect was never sold to Borland. On the contrary, WordPerfect bought the Quattro spreadsheet from Borland and tried to bundle it into the WordPerfect Office suite.Hayford Peirce 01:18, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Actually, reverse the names of the players. Borland marketed its programs plus WP Corp's WordPerfect as a suite, before eventually Borland sold its products (to whom, I'm not sure... I don't know if this was before or after Novell bought the package). SterlingNorth
That's correct; "Borland Office" was a package sold by Borland, including WP (licensed from WPCorp) as its word processor, as Borland's word processor (Sprint) had no market share to speak of. At the time Borland was gearing up to compete product-for-product with MS and Lotus, and probably hoped to buy WP eventually. Then Novell stepped in with the same hopeless goal (after all, they already had DR-DOS and Netware to compete with MS-DOS and NT), and bought out both companies' officeware. Tverbeek 02:30, 29 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Comparison to other word processors
I think the "other word processors" should be explicitly named in order for the section to sound plausible. Currently the "more stable", "easier", "greater use" phrases sound like taken live from an ad. At the same time, the points such as "a wide variety of import and export filters" aren't really comparative.
So, what I'm proposing is: either change the section to "features" and remove the comparative points; or change it to "comparison to MS Word" and remove the non-comparative points; or specify all word processor names that all the points apply to and remove the non-comparative points. -Unavowed
Comparison to other word processors
I think the "other word processors" should be explicitly named in order for the section to sound plausible. Currently the "more stable", "easier", "greater use" phrases sound like taken live from an ad. At the same time, the points such as "a wide variety of import and export filters" aren't really comparative.
So, what I'm proposing is: either change the section to "features" and remove the comparative points; or change it to "comparison to MS Word" and remove the non-comparative points; or specify all word processor names that all the points apply to and remove the non-comparative points. -Unavowed