User talk:Fintor

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Mishneh Torah

Hi Fintor. Glad you saw my extensions of the Mishneh Torah article! I would recommend not including links in the article (like you did there), but to add them to "External links". The only exception is links that function as references (ie without a body text). JFW | T@lk 19:21, 24 May 2004 (UTC)

Talmud and Orthodox Judaism

Hi Fintor. My compliments on your judicious edits of the above. There are some problems with these and some related articles, and I was wondering what your thoughts were on the matter:

• Some are very badly structured
• Some contain POV fossils that nobody has bothered to remove
• Some are reflections of religious fervor rather than an attempt at gathering encyclopedic knowledge
• The external links are often used to introduce POVed material instead of using the body text
• They are being edited continually by a large number of people who employ varying terminology, effectively leading to chaos

Would you see any blessing in starting up a Wikipedia:WikiProject that sets guidelines on Judaism-related articles? JFW | T@lk 10:03, 1 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for your response, Fintor. I now little about finance, but I do my bit on Judaism and medical topics on wikipedia...

If we are to start of a Wikiproject, I'm not sure if we should use any catalogisation or classification system at all. The Category:Judaism should perhaps be split up a bit, with everything flowing from there (e.g. into Category:Jewish books, Category:Rabbis). Cooperation between the "branches", even though they might exclude each other's validity, will be necessary.

There should be little editorial policy on a Jewish wikiproject. Simply wikipedia rules are in force. Validation against any source is probably not necessary; the wiki-consensus will do its work.

However:

(1) Modern Hebrew transliteration rules (without Unicode characters, like Noah with a dot under the "h")

(2) Basic and brief translations of important concepts, and perhaps a "Jewish glossary" somewhere for more elaborate things. I've seen too many: "The Torah is the five books of moses, the first five books of the Jewish Bible/Old Testament..." in articles that only tangentially touch on this.

(3) As little external links as possible - only to truly representative organisations, and not propaganda machines.

PS, for a POV fossil, please see what I deleted from the Tenth Commandment in Ten Commandments: according to the order of the words it flows that in the Midbar houses were more valuable than women, while in Arvoth Moav it was the other way round ???!! Baloney de'Orayso.

JFW | T@lk 18:51, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Categories

Many Jewish articles have grown a list of categories. While I applaud this categorisation, I feel there is a lot of overlinking (all articles were suddenly in Category:Rabbis, while this was unnecessary). I have deleted a large number of instances and discussed this with User:IZAK, who did most of the categorisation. You might care to review the categorisations whenever you edit a Jewish page... JFW | T@lk 12:06, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Modern portfolio theory

I just noticed your article on Modern portfolio theory. Excellent work! mydogategodshat 03:25, 25 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Re: Hebrew language vs. "Canaanite languages"

Hi, please see:

Request for assistance in a conflict between users regarding Canaanite and Hebrew linguistics articles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_mediation#Request_for_assistance_in_a_conflict_between_users_regarding_Canaanite_and_Hebrew_linguistics_articles)

Your interest and input would be appreciated. Thank you. IZAK 09:35, 7 Jul 2004 (UTC)

• Update: The above discussion was moved to Talk:Hebrew languages and your input would be appreciated. Thanks. IZAK 06:49, 9 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Jewish Wikiproject

Mazel tov, it's here! Ezra Wax has commenced the "Judaism" WikiProject! The bris is next week. JFW | T@lk 14:11, 8 Jul 2004 (UTC)

re: Wikipedia:WikiProject Judaism

Hi Fintor, please take a moment to look at Wikipedia:WikiProject Judaism as it deals with your issues and your contributions would be most welcome. Thanks. IZAK 23:34, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Warmly, no hotly invited! But bring your own coffee mug and parev creamer. JFW | T@lk 15:26, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Hebrew languages

Wikipedia:WikiProject Hebrew languages Please join Wikipedia:WikiProject Hebrew languages Your input will be crucial. IZAK 08:26, 10 Aug 2004 (UTC)

The business and economics forum

Anouncing the introduction of The Business and Economics Forum. It is a "place" where those of us with an interest in the business and economics section of Wikipedia can "meet" and discuss issues. Please drop by: the more contributors, the greater its usefulness. If you know of other Wikipedians who might be interested, please send this to them.

mydogategodshat 18:52, 26 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Vote

See Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Occupation of Palestine

Vote: Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Violence against Israelis

See Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Violence against Israelis. Thank you. IZAK 09:25, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Need for support

See Wikipedia:Requests for comment/IZAK. Thank you. IZAK 02:55, 6 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Sam Spade

Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Sam Spade

Vote "NO". Opposed to SamSpade's unfriendly views in the Jew article. IZAK 08:45, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Comeandhear links

Hi Fintor. I'd like to make you aware that http://www.come-and-hear.com, however innocent-looking, is a project of the rather anti-semitic (or, shall we say, keeping a close track on Jews) http://www.public-action.com . I appreciate Talmud fulltext is hard to come by online, but I advise you to find a better link for Nezikin. JFW | T@lk 16:45, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)

See these six categories up for "votes of deletion":

See these six categories up for "votes of deletion":

Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion#Category:Palestinian_terrorists and Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion#Category:Palestinian_terrorist_organizations and Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion#Category:Middle_East_terrorists and Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion#Category:Terrorist_organizations and Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion#Category:Islamic_terrorist_organizations and this one too: Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion#Category:Jewish_terrorist_organizations

IZAK 10:10, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Opinion for IZAK

Please see Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/IZAK/Evidence. Thank you. IZAK 07:08, 7 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Article Licensing

Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 2000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:

• Multi-Licensing FAQ - Lots of questions answered
• Multi-Licensing Guide
• Free the Rambot Articles Project

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

Option 1

I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:

{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

OR

Option 2

I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:

{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" with "{{MultiLicensePD}}". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Ram-Man&action=edit&section=new)| talk)

Yechezkel Landau

Hey Fintor, making a page with just links is really not done! :-) I wrote the article for you. Also, please do not use horizontal rules on pages - the manual of style discourages them. JFW | T@lk 11:22, 14 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Neo Orthodoxy

I think Neo-Orthodoxy is simply a misnomer of Torah im Derech Eretz. It presumes that there is neo at all, which I personally disagree with. Rav Hirsch - in his own view - never innovated anything, and there are plenty of sources (e.g. Shaarei Talmud Torah by Rav Yehuda Levi) that support this. Most rishonim and the majority of the acharonim support the acquisition of secular knowledge, and the Maharal you quoted even extends this outside the scope of professional education.

What would the difference be between Torah im Derech Eretz and Neo-Orthodoxy anyway? I think the latter should redirect to the former. JFW | T@lk 14:41, 27 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Delete vote on Jewish ethnocentrism

The article Jewish ethnocentrism is currently up for deletion. You can see the relevant discussion, and vote, at Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Jewish ethnocentrism. Jayjg ^(talk) 16:28, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Just another note, the vote ends quite soon. Jayjg ^(talk) 14:58, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)

"Christian Bible" or just "Bible"?

There's a vote on this topic going on at Talk:Bible. I thought you might be interested in taking part. Jayjg ^(talk) 14:53, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Meforshim and rabbis

Hi, please see discussion at Talk:Meforshim, and see RK's recent edits about Rabbi at [1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rabbi&action=history) thanks. IZAK 07:33, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Question about dates at Geonim

Fintor, there is some question about conflicting dates at the Geonim article. Since you are the author of some of that, would you mind commenting? Jayjg ^(talk) 17:06, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Hi Fintor. Perhaps you missed this question when I first posted it. Do you think you could go to the Geonim article and help clarify your edits please? Thanks. Jayjg ^(talk) 02:36, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

Hi Fintor. I feel a little like I'm harrassing you, but have you had a chance to look that up yet? Jayjg ^(talk) 21:48, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

Proposed Template:Judaism

Hi Fintor, please see and provide your input on the talk page of the proposed Template:Judaism. Thank you. IZAK 07:27, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Jews as a chosen people

There are some interesting edits being entered by an anonymous editor at Jews as a chosen people; you might want to take a look. Jayjg ^(talk) 22:59, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

BC/AD versus BCE/CE

There's a discussion and a vote on this topic going on at Talk:Jesus#Reversions & Consensus on BCE/AD; I thought you might be interested. Jayjg ^(talk) 18:55, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

Sephirah (Kabbalah)

Hello Fintor: Looking at the Sephirah (Kabbalah) article, the following articles are waiting to be written:

• Binah ("Understanding"; בינה)
• Chesed ("Mercy"; חסד)
• Gevurah ("Severity"; גבורה)
• Tiphereth ("Glory"; תיפארת)
• Netzach ("Victory"; נצח)
• Yesod ("Foundation"; יסוד)
• Malkhut ("Kingdom"; מלכות)

These have brief articles, but could use improvement:

• Keter ("Crown"; כתר)
• Chochmah ("Wisdom"; חכמה)
• Hod ("Majesty"; הוד)
• Da'at ("Knowledge"; דעת)

Best wishes, IZAK 09:53, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

Abif