User talk:Raul654

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1 Featured article 2 "Recently featured" 3 Possible impostor 4 I just thought... 5 Netoholic mentorship 6 Pic of the day 7 DC meet 8 Mentoring re Template:Notpolicy 9 Disrupting Wikipedia vote 10 User:Netoholic/Mentoring cleanup 11 Tkorrovi and Paul Beardsell 12 Bad faith conduct by another editor 13 Thanks for the media updates to the whale articles 14 Paratroopers 15 Another request 16 Vote for Deletion 17 Serious objection -- punishing a user for attacks made against him 18 Ending the metatemplate dispute 19 User:Netoholic/Mentoring 20 Hydrangea 21 Millie photo 22 Coolcat <-> Stereotek, Davenbelle 23 Admins who voluntarily give up their adminship 24 Grunge in FAC 25 Image for tomorrow's Featured Article 26 Template:Sisterproject 27 Shmuel Gonen 28 History articles on Wikipedia 29 RFA 30 Photographer's rights 31 Wikipedia:Unsuccessful adminship candidacies 32 Media at Dmitri Shostakovich 33 Yom Kipur War 34 Link (Legend of Zelda) 35 Yom Kippur 36 Template 37 Commons image 38 FAC Promotion Request 39 request 40 Minor grammar error in your user page 41 Steve Dalkowski 42 Impersonator 43 Re: Warning 44 Urgent! Help! 45 Thanks for the kind words... 46 To-do template 47 Swedish language 48 Jguk's container pages 49 Golan Heights image 50 Password trouble 51 Contraversy? 52 Question for you 53 NPOV AIDS 54 Promoted Clivia miniata 55 Thanks 56 Re: Good work! 57 Reference templates 58 Great Match!! 59 Main Page 60 Powell 61 Karamazov 62 The Bros and The Pope 63 wikistress level 64 An Image Tag? 65 Everyking IRC request 66 Ama'n 67 Netoholic 68 Lir 69 Zoroastrianism 70 Former featured articles 71 Moving images to commons 72 Koufax article 73 Template:Disinfopedia 74 Congress 75 Thanks! 76 Nasty Bugger 77 Need some help 78 Thank you 79 Chess 80 Warren County Canal 81 Shrek32 82 Template:Personal 83 RFA; climate ch: motion to close: objecting 84 Tote the Ranks 85 couple of questions: 86 Happy Birthday 87 Image:Alois Brunner.jpg 88 Everyking mentorship 89 jguk case 90 A'man2 91 Iwo Jima for deletion 92 Thanks... = 93 Chess 94 New Category on WP:FA 95 Weird bot edits 96 Cambini media files problem 97 Netoholic, again 98 Excuse me? 99 FAC 100 Neto? 101 Help needed 102 In regard to the anon. IP vandalism to the proposed decision page for Kainthescion's RfAr... 103 Admin's abuse 104 Dr. Pellegrini,

Featured article

With Wikipedia receiving featured status, how could I not write about it in my signpost article? The nomination mentioned 2 previous FACs and two PR requests. Are there any other nominations and PR requests that aren't documented as well, I should know about? Mgm|^(talk) 13:54, May 8, 2005 (UTC)

Not to my knowledge. →Raul654 03:04, May 10, 2005 (UTC)

"Recently featured"

I don't know if I still tell you these things, or if it's handled by someone else (or on a particular page), but the "recently featured" list for the Main Page is wrong--it doesn't list Samantha Smith, even though she was yesterday's featured article. According to the May archive, it appears that her article was not included in the list for tomorrow or the next day either. I'd fix it myself, but I suspect I'd screw it up, and anyway I'm positive you'll be much faster at it than I am. Thanks, Jwrosenzweig 00:36, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I don't follow - what list are you talking about? The one on goings-on includes it. →Raul654 00:41, May 11, 2005 (UTC)

Nevermind - I see it now. I'll fix it. →Raul654 00:43, May 11, 2005 (UTC)

Possible impostor

I've been doing some impostor hunting lately, seeing as how we've had a rash of them lately and all, and you got the following hits: RauI654 (talk • contribs). Of course, this may be nothing, but I thought I would let you know. – ClockworkSoul 05:12, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the info. I've gone ahead and blocked. →Raul654 19:11, May 13, 2005 (UTC)

I just thought...

I just thought suddenly: whom I can always count to do his work on Wiki? Silently, in the background, while we mess around on FAC and related, there is Raul654, withouth whom the FA would be...well, most likely wouldn't be. So...

I, Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus ^Talk do hereby, and with all due and deserved ceremony, award you, Raul654 a The Working Man's Barnstar for your excellent and unending work regarding keeping featured article candidates and related up and running. It is hugely appreciated. Thank you. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus ^Talk 01:28, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

I'll add it above :) →Raul654 19:11, May 13, 2005 (UTC)

Netoholic mentorship

So, dear mentor, how long must we put up with this (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Notpolicy&action=history)? The Uninvited Co., Inc. 15:07, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

I've prohibited him from editing there now. →Raul654 15:24, May 13, 2005 (UTC)

Pic of the day

Hi Mark,

Just to let you know that your photo Image:Lincoln statue.jpg is making a reappearance as Pic of the Day on the 19th. I've used the previous caption, but you can make any changes at Wikipedia:Picture of the day/May 19, 2005 - Solipsist 08:23, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

Good deal. I look forward to it. →Raul654 19:11, May 13, 2005 (UTC)

DC meet

I am so sorry I couldn't make Brickskeller! I had a minor pet crisis that I had to deal with and it kept me busy all night. Did y'all have fun? · Katefan0^(scribble) 15:06, May 13, 2005 (UTC)

There's already talk of doing another one in July. Would that work for you? →Raul654 19:11, May 13, 2005 (UTC)

Mentoring re Template:Notpolicy

I don't feel that being a party to a revert war is a very good way to "mentor" me. If anyone have an issue with my edit, and I'm not explaining myself well, it is your responsibility to help me communicate. I think this applies if it is you that has an issue. Why didn't you try to talk to me first? Why didn't you make any use of the Talk page before reverting me? I hope you can see how I'm confused as to how you're going to help me on an on-going basis if you're not following the mentorship process. Neither you nor Firebug (which I reported to you as being a thorn in my side) made any attempt to discuss my edit. I made use of the talk page at the time I made the change in the first place (see Template talk:Notpolicy#Wording and formatting). I'm doing my part already. -- Netoholic @ 16:45, 2005 May 13 (UTC)

By prohibiting you from reverting that page, I am forcing you to use the talk page, and thus I am helping you communicate. Use the talk page, discuss with others, and once I am satisfied that you have made substantial progress, I'll lift the prohibition. →Raul654 19:11, May 13, 2005 (UTC)

Don't I get any acknowledgment that I've already complied with this? I pointed a link where I documented my reasons for the change. Firebug reverted out of spite against me, and didn't comment on Talk. You reverted probably in good faith, but failed to use the talk. At least Uninvited used the talk page. As I said, I'm doing my part using the hell out of talk pages. I wish you'd give me credit or benefit of the doubt before laying down restrictions. And please lead by better example and use freaking talk pages yourself. -- Netoholic @ 19:23, 2005 May 13 (UTC)

Disrupting Wikipedia vote

Are you going to vote in the new poll (right where they deleted the majority support vote) or are you going to boycott on principle? - Tεxτurε 17:32, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

Yes, I believe I will, although I don't see the point of having a vote on something that is already being treated as policy -- it seems a pointless exercise and a needless waste of time. →Raul654 19:11, May 13, 2005 (UTC)

User:Netoholic/Mentoring cleanup

Why were our "defensive" comments "cleaned up", while the original "accusations" ("There are two users who have taken a rather obsessive stance with regards to me.") were left intact? - Omegatron 18:55, May 13, 2005 (UTC)

The purpose of the community comments section is to report on-going bad behavior on the part of Netoholic. The comment there did not really meet that requirement. On the other hand, as I see it, Netoholic can use "his" section to make whatever comments he wants. →Raul654 19:11, May 13, 2005 (UTC)

So you "cleanup" other people's comments about him but don't cleanup his comments about others? - Omegatron 19:27, May 13, 2005 (UTC)

Maybe I should have been more clear - that page is not a discussion page. It's not a place for conversations. It is a place to report problem editing by netoholic. You were not using it for that, and therefore I removed your comments. I will not be wading through 100 kilobytes of back-and-forth bickering to find new reports of problem editing by Netoholic. If you want to have a discussion, take it to the talk page.

As far as Netoholic's comment - in the interest of not stifling him and of giving him the chance to defend himself, I left it. →Raul654 19:40, May 13, 2005 (UTC)

Ok. Fair enough. - Omegatron 21:42, May 13, 2005 (UTC)

Tkorrovi and Paul Beardsell

Paul Beardsell edited the Proposed decision page of the arbitration case. My comment [1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_arbitration), diff [2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_arbitration&diff=13691758&oldid=13691743), please read it before voting on case, the last principle was added by him.Tkorrovi 12:02, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

Bad faith conduct by another editor

I don't know if you've noticed it yet, but User:Levzur has put Bagrationi and Democratic Republic of Georgia both back on the FAC page. In reviewing my own comments on the DRG nomination, I found someone else (I haven't investigated the page history yet) had put strikeouts through four of my objections that, after reviewing the article today, still stand. slambo 15:31, May 14, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the media updates to the whale articles

Much appreciated. Pcb21| Pete 21:35, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

Anytime :) →Raul654 22:52, May 14, 2005 (UTC)

If you ever fancy doing some more there is some at http://newport.pmel.noaa.gov/whales/bluecall.html that I would like to add to Blue Whale. I will do it myself eventually but you know how to get them converted from WAV to OGG. Pcb21| Pete 19:26, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

Paratroopers

Hi Mark,

Knowing that you have more than a passing interest in military history, can you take a look at the second para on the caption for Wikipedia:Picture of the day/May 22, 2005. The fact that nearly all active deployments of paratroopers in combat have been a disaster, is something that I vaguely recall from a documentary I may have seen years ago, so it could do with a second opinion. -- Solipsist 20:24, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

Delivering troops by parachute is, according to the late general Phillip Davidson, the absolute worst way to introduce troops onto the battlefield (there's a quote to this effect in his History of Vietnam book but after quickly thumbing through it I could not find it). With the advent of the helicopter, parachute drops have gone the way of the dodo, for good reason. The only advantage a plane has over a helicopter for delivering troops is that a plane can fly farther, faster, with a greater load.

The Germans used paratrooper and gliderborn troops (on a very small scale) with success during their swoop through the lowlands and France in 1940. The only time they used them in force was at the Battle of Crete. The British, through superior intelligence, knew about it in advance and slaughtered them. While the germans won the battle by overwhelming force, their (massive) losses meant they would never try it again.

The Allies used paratroopers and gliderborne troops during the Invasion of Normandy suffered very high losses, but caused tremendous confusion among the germans -- so overall, the operation was a success, albeit a costly one. Later in the War, another airborne operation - Operation Market Garden - was another disaster, mostly due to being overambitious (they tried to capture 7 bridges and were able to capture the first 6 -- the 7th was "one too many" and the troops landing there were clobbered).

Parachute drops were used (on a small scale) by the French with mixed results during the First Indochina War. Hirondelle on July 17, 1953 was a success; later ones trying to turn the tide at Dien Bien Phu were massacres.

Off the top of my head, the only use of paratroopers since Vietnam I can think of was in the Faukland Islands war. The british paratroopers landed unopposed at one end of the island, and marched to the other, meeting only light resistance. :I hope that answers your question. →Raul654 20:55, May 16, 2005 (UTC)

That great thanks. So to describe the use of paratroopers in combat as 'a disaster' seems about right. Presumably to only point of parachute training with the current military is to 'build character', or more usefully as a survival technique for pilots. -- Solipsist 21:11, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

The Falklands War saw no use of parachute troops. The Parachute Regiment is a now elite infantry formation (sometimes heliborne), not a parachute force. However, there were parachute drops in the 1956 Suez War. Gdr 11:57, 2005 May 18 (UTC)

Another request

Like before, would you please look through my DC pics and see if there anything feature worthy there. →Raul654 06:42, May 18, 2005 (UTC)

Hi Mark,

Well in many ways, it looks like you got a higher hit rate of good photos in this batch and many articles should benefit. But I couldn't really see anything that thought was a likely FP candidate (perhaps I'm too critical - I'm pleasantly suprised that the Aloe seems to be working out).

Image:Agave victoriae reginae.jpg is good but probably too similar to the Aloe. I also like Image:Mammillaria hahniana.jpg but the shadow across the middle is a mild problem. I particularly liked Image:Spirit of St. Louis2.jpg, but I doubt the FPC crowd would go for part of the plane and other planes in museums have been rejected before. Image:Apotheosis of George Washington.jpg is interesting and might be a candidate, but it would need to be cropped to be symetrical and the bottom edge is a little soft - it might be seen as too US centric. -- Solipsist 19:36, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

Vote for Deletion

Hi; I'm sorry to be bothering you concerning this, but Wikipedia:Chess championship is up for a VfD. Wikipedia:Votes_for_deletion/Chess_championship Please vote to keep this thing alive... this is so lame that I need to ask people to help out here. Linuxbeak | Desk 03:43, May 19, 2005 (UTC)

Serious objection -- punishing a user for attacks made against him

In the finding of fact (Tkorrovi and Paul Beardsell case) only 1 out of 10 personal attacks mentioned was by me and even this was about how I named his Paul Beardsell's personal attack against me. And as a remedy, I was proposed to be indefinitely banned from editing the article. This is severely unjust, any punishment must be proportional to the misconduct. You give me an indefinite ban for a single comment, equal to indefinite ban to Paul Beardsell for numerous personal attacks against me during a year, which, as you see, I did not reply with personal attacks, except maybe only once (I'm human), in spite of everything which I might feel, I think this is civil behaviour. I'm going to be punished for attacks made against me.Tkorrovi 17:37, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

Ending the metatemplate dispute

An alternative to deletion of Template:Sisterproject. Doing double transclusion, as Jamesday and Tim Starling have both said, is a drain on system resources. On the other hand, having some consistent guide to similar templates (such as the sister projects or the stub templates) is a good idea (you should have seen all the different designs for topic stubs before template:metastub and template:metapicstub were created). Whether this style guide is another template that is "subst:" when the new template is created, or copied-and-pasted (as Netoholic has insisted is the only way to do it) is debatable. My own opinion is that the copy-and-paste method will mean that it will be much less likely to be used and be more likely to result in non-matching templates.

The alternative: Add some explanation text to the design template that will explain how it should be used, and prevent it from being used in double transclusion. For example: for the metastub template, the text might be something like:

This is a design template for the creation or modification of topic stub templates. To create a new stub for "newtopic", add the "subst:" parameter to the template (e.g. {subst:metastub | article=newtopic-related article | id=newtopic-stub | category=newtopic}}. After creating the stub, you will need to reedit the stub to remove this text. There are suggested criteria for the creation of stubs (see Wikipedia:Stub sorting policy), and a Stub-creation WikiProject you should visit if you have never created a topic stub before.

After creation of each design template with the additional text, each one should then be protected from further modification. BlankVerse ∅ 10:42, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

User:Netoholic/Mentoring

Raul, I noticed your comments re "User:Netoholic/Mentoring cleanup" above, could you clear up a little further? Where it says on the page, "This section is only to be used to report ongoing problematic editing by Netoholic", I asked a few days ago if I don't get to list ongoing problematic editing by others (relevant to Netoholic) anywhere. I also mentioned a current instance (current then). You got any comment? Seems to me ongoing stuff apparently designed (for example) to provoke Netoholic can be important to report.--Bishonen | talk 06:15, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

Hydrangea

Hi Raul - any objection to my moving Bigleaf hydrangea to its scientific name at Hydrangea macrophylla? The species has several common names (Bigleaf, French, Hortensia, Lacecap, Mophead), none with any noticeably greater currency than any other, so I think the scientific name is the best/most useful. Also the majority of the 100 Hydrangea species don't have any English name at all, and if/when these get individual pages (inevitably at their scientific name), the one listed at an English name would be out of sync. - MPF 13:35, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

No objection here - just be sure to fix the double-redirects when you move the page. →Raul654 18:02, May 23, 2005 (UTC)

Will do, thanks! - MPF 21:21, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

Millie photo

Looks like you uploaded Image:Millie and Barbara Bush.jpg but didn't give source or copyright status--could you update that, pretty please? Thanks. Elf | Talk 20:29, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

Source now supplied. The copyright status isn't certain -- the page itself says it is from the George Bush Presidential Library, but it could be a public domain press photo or it could be copyrighted and fair use. →Raul654 20:38, May 23, 2005 (UTC)

Hmm. OK, thanks. Elf | Talk 21:20, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

Coolcat <-> Stereotek, Davenbelle

Articles which users reverted my edits. --Cool Cat ^{My Talk} 23:35, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

• Kurdistan Workers Party - I wrote most of this article
• Abdullah Öcalan - still an ongoing revert war on material thats clearly POV.
• Kurdistan - Old revert wars calmed by other admins
• Kurdish people - Many reverts, I removed obvious POV statements added material, they reverted my edits on this article in less than 10 minutes of my revert.
• Armenian Genocide - No active reverts by the users at the time, current reverts exist
• Nanjing Massacre - Interfered with mediation attempt. It was an article I was going to try experimenting on NPOVising such disputes. There reverted image size modifications. I had a 3rr block for this disagreement. Stereotek requested this block, was also blocked as he was also violating. Users did not have a single edit prior to mine.
• Javier Solana Mediation attempt of a less contraversial article, was REQUESTED to mediate it by another user on IRC. Davenbelle destriyed the attempt.
• GAP Project (was declared copy vio material completely removed/stubisiszed)
• Ranks and insignia of NATO - No actual reverts as they cannot really question images of ranks. Declared this article as an "Abuse" of templates [3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AXiong&diff=13245343&oldid=13233063). Would revert if found an excuse.
• Greco-Turkish relations - OK article was locked, so I couldnt edit the article but instead made my cases in talk. These users just declared me a POV pusher and whatever on the talk page and completely destroyed the productivitiy of my edit. Rather hostile. (you may want to check archives of talk page.)
• Armenia Some reverts, spelling and grammer correction was declared POV.
• Mustafa Kemal Atatürk - was declared in denial, no serrious revert "war" but reverets do exist from time to time.

I am tired of dealing with this. I am open for suggestions. --Cool Cat ^{My Talk} 23:38, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

I dont care anymore on what anyone suggests or tells. Hence withdrawing my request. If you really care what I think see my user page. I dont hate you. I am not happy either. --Cool Cat ^{My Talk} 00:39, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Admins who voluntarily give up their adminship

We don't have any set policy I can point to. IMO if their leaving adminship was truly voluntary--i.e., they left because they were on extended Wikivactaion, or didn't think they could keep up with the task (though that doesn't both a lot of current less active admins) they should have it back for the asking. After all, admins just go inactive, are listed as inactive, then say "I'm back" and resume their active status and noone challenges it.

OTOH, if they left in a storm ("taking my marbles and leaving," etc.) maybe they should stand new.

How about this? Since it is bureaucrat's job to decide on adminship, returning admins could ask any bureaucrat to reinstate them. Then that bureaucrat would need two other bureaucrats to agree, and then just do it. If any bureaucrat disagrees, they stand for seven days.

We could avoid this whole thing if we ask Anthere and Angela not to deadmin voluntarily--just list them inactive. If an admin is removed "for cause" or insists on being de-admined anyway, start them all over again for 7 days. -- Cecropia | explains it all ® 00:33, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

Deadminship - even voluntarily - is rare enough that I don't see the need for all elaborate formal policies. How about if two bureacrats agree that it was voluntary, then they are reinstated without much fuss? →Raul654 00:44, May 25, 2005 (UTC)

OK by me, unless the de-admin was the result of ArbCom or something. But I really think people should be discouraged from formal voluntary de-admining and just go inactive. -- Cecropia | explains it all ® 00:58, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

I concur. So to put this idea into practice - Ugen currently has such a request on RFA, and Ta Bu just withdrew his yesterday or so. Both of them simply asked to be stripped of their powers and it was made so. →Raul654 00:59, May 25, 2005 (UTC)

Raul and Cecropia, may I request that, if you're going to change past practice, that you allow the votes that had started to proceed, and introduce this change for any new votes, and after a wider discussion? You wrote on Ugen's page that, if memory serves you right, there's no need for his re-nomination, and yet there seems to be no current policy to that effect. I would like the vote for Ugen to go ahead, as I feel there are some legitimate concerns. I also feel that admins have the choice to simply be inactive for a time, and if they specifically choose to be desysopped for whatever reason (e.g. Evercat felt he'd abused his position), then it's only fair, in my view, to ask them to be re-elected if they change their minds. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 02:29, May 25, 2005 (UTC)

Raul, I've thought about this more in response to SlimVirgin's request to do so. I appreciate your desire to avoid making every decision an elaborate formal process, but I think we need to be able to go to the community with some sense of why we are doing something that is arguable. For example, a certain former bureaucrat left when a decision of his was questioned. I think this person should not be restored to bureaucrat status without going through the process again. I will leave a comment on the RfA page as this applies to admin. -- Cecropia | explains it all ® 04:48, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

Hey, Raui! I will start translating the Hebrew article on Gonen tonight. Danny 09:58, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

Grunge in FAC

You recently removed grunge music from Wikipedia:Featured article candidates without any explaination for whether it failed or became a featured article. Please respond on the article's talk page. -- LGagnon 20:24, May 25, 2005 (UTC)

Whoops! I was in the process of promoting it (I removed it from the FAC and added it to the promotion archive) but got distracted and didn't finish the job. →Raul654 21:00, May 25, 2005 (UTC)

I've gone ahead and fixed it. →Raul654 21:24, May 25, 2005 (UTC)

Image for tomorrow's Featured Article

I have mprotected Image:Senate chamber.JPG for tomorrow. This file comes from the Wikimedia Commons. Gdr said the file there has to be protected, too. (See this on my talk page.) I am not an Admin at the Commons, so I can't protect the file from that end. Could you protect it, please ? Thanks. -- PFHLai 00:37, 2005 May 26 (UTC)

Done and done. →Raul654 03:26, May 26, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks, Raul654. -- PFHLai 12:55, 2005 May 26 (UTC)

Template:Sisterproject

"Blanking, per arbcom clarification decision." I'll accept the arbcom decision, but would be grateful if you could provide a link. — Itai (f&t) 10:50, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

It was made in response to Netoholic's request for clarification. After talking with other arbitrators, we agreed that the template needed to go - the only question about it was pro-forma related. [4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wp:rfar#Wikipedia:Meta-templates_considered_harmful) →Raul654 18:38, May 26, 2005 (UTC)

Raul - thanks for your help with settling this. Could you unprotect Template:Commonscat? Looks like a casualty.

Done. →Raul654 18:47, May 26, 2005 (UTC)

Also, I still would like to turn Template:sisterproject into something useful, and I've made a mock-up (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Netoholic/WIP&oldid=14173308). I'll probably archive all the old "meta-template" discussion on the talk page of that template, and go in this new direction (since it's a handy page name). -- Netoholic @ 13:14, 2005 May 26 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. →Raul654 18:47, May 26, 2005 (UTC)

A. You've still to provide some substantiation for your claims. (The link no longer works - a diff would be in order.) B. This sounds like a bad idea. This is been attempted by Netoholic before (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3ASisterproject&diff=10770325&oldid=10769887) - hijacking templates being a typical Netoholic way of solving disputes - and now he's merely reviving his old idea, which I oppose. The template namespace is big and flexible enough for a new name to be chosen for Netoholic's new template. If you want to delete Template:Sisterproject, do it (or rather, allow me to move it to my User: namespace); if you want to keep it for reference, much the better. But using this particular name would make the edit histories of all sister project templates meaningless to an outside reader - why would anybody use this template in all these templates - and is something I therefore oppose. — Itai (f&t) 07:53, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

(A) Here's the diff of me clearing the discussion - http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration&diff=14304435&oldid=14302856

(B) Your concerns about reusing the template are valid. I'm going to ask netoholic to blank the template and refrain from using it/remove it from articles until he comes to some understand with others about reusing the name (or, failing that, to use a different template name). →Raul654 08:06, May 27, 2005 (UTC)

Oh, well. You win some, you lose some. Thanks for the link. (And support as far as reusing the name is concerned.) — Itai (f&t) 08:27, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

Shmuel Gonen

Shmuel Gonen. Danny 12:06, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

Nice! →Raul654 18:44, May 26, 2005 (UTC)

History articles on Wikipedia

Hello,

I’m a historian working at the Center for History and New Media at George Mason University (http://chnm.gmu.edu/) and we are very interested in digital historical works, including people writing history on Wikipedia. We’d like to talk to people about their experiences working on articles in Wikipedia, in connection with a larger project on the history of the free and open source software movement. Would you be willing to talk with us about your involvement, either by phone, a/v chat, IM, or email? This could be as lengthy or brief a conversation as you wish.

Thanks for your consideration.

Joan Fragaszy

jfragasz at gmu dot edu

I got this message too. What make you of it? -SocratesJedi | Talk 18:14, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

If I had to guess - dollars to donuts this is a grad student working up a thesis (she would not be the first grad student working on a thesis to whom I spoken about Wikipedia). Sounds legit to me. →Raul654 18:52, May 26, 2005 (UTC)

Hi Raul, I wanted to reply to your comment. I actually am working with several professors in the history department for their own study on the history of the free and open source software movement. We would like to include peer-produced works of history, with articles on Wikipedia and digital genealogy projects as the most familiar examples. This study is part of a larger project on the history of science, technology, and industry. You can read more about it on our website: http://echo.gmu.edu. Please feel free to contact me with any questions you have about our intentions. Best regards, Joan Fragaszy.

Joan - I'd be willing to discuss this. I think I'd prefer to do it by phone. →Raul654 20:56, May 26, 2005 (UTC)

RFA

Hi. To let you know, I have replied to your concerns at my RFA. ✏ OvenFresh² 18:37, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

...and again. :) ✏ OvenFresh² 19:58, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

Photographer's rights

Hi Mark,

Its probably on your watchlist, but I thought you would be interested in the additions I made to the Wikipedia:Copyright FAQ about the rights and restrictions affecting photographers, which whilst not strictly anything to do with copyright nevertheless appear to be closely related frequently asked questions.

The link to the UK guide is really helpful and covers a wide range of issues in concise summary. The US link is OK, but seems to be more confrontational and doesn't cover some of the issues relating to photographing artwork. Do you know of a better short guide for US photographers.

Both are quite good about addressing recent issues with subjects which are thought to be of interest to terrorist. I was recently threatened by a couple of police women for taking a photograph in a London underground station, so those sections were of particular interest to me. -- Solipsist 18:50, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

Yes, something like this was definitely lacking. Good work, and thanks. →Raul654 18:57, May 26, 2005 (UTC)

PS - I got the same threats from a security guard when I was taking pictures of Greenbelt station. →Raul654 18:57, May 26, 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Unsuccessful adminship candidacies

Hello, I just wanted to remind you about the aforementioned page. When you remove an admin candidate from RfA, it should then be added to current administrators and recently created admins, or unsuccessful candidacies as appropriate. I added Wonderfool to the latter.

My condolences on your mentorship. User:Brockert/sig 02:00, May 27, 2005 (UTC)

Media at Dmitri Shostakovich

Hi! I noticed that you intended to add a media file to the article Dmitri Shostakovich, but the link there doesn't seem to actually link to a media file... Perhaps a mistake? -- KittySaturn 04:10, 2005 May 27 (UTC)

Long story - just wipe out the link. →Raul654 04:14, May 27, 2005 (UTC)

Yom Kipur War

Hi, Raul654, thanks for your comment. Please see my response on my talk page. The short answer, is by accident. Sorry, about that. I would never, nor have I ever, intentionally follow a well thought-out edit summary with an edit summary-less one. El_C 10:12, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

By the way, Raul, I found your recent edits in that article to have been good and useful. I'm sorry if I'm slowing down your thrust, I have no intention to revert war over this. As I said on my talk page in greater detail, I'm more than happy for us to refer to Danny on this. El_C 10:22, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

Sorry to bother you again, but I submitted the edit with the summary, yet it ins't registering. The edit summary read (I still have the page open) : Raul, you can delete it elsewhere (though perhaps it should be exapnded there). We arrived at consensus on the talk page to note it in the Lead, as an important development. Danny, what do you think? El_C 10:31, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

Link (Legend of Zelda)

I suggested Link (Legend of Zelda) for the Main Page some time ago on Wikipedia talk:Tomorrow's featured article, and you told me there were too many unsourced, fair use images, and I pretty much forgot about it. However, with User:Master Thief Garrett, I removed a few superfluous images, properly tagged the other ones and added source information (including the emulator used to take the OoA screenshot). The lead picture was changed to include a promotional picture for the upcoming Twilight Princess, and I've tried to replace pictures found on third party sites with images directly from Nintendo's site. Is there any hope it could be put on the main page now? User:Phils/sig 16:46, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. Since I already have a 'nerd' oriented article scehduled for the 4th (Windows XP), I'll probably wait at least a week before putting up link. →Raul654 21:17, May 27, 2005 (UTC)

Thank you. But don't hesitate to delay it even longer; what's most important about the main page FA is showing the variety of subjects treated on Wikipedia. Besides, there's really no special Zelda-related event on the horizon (E3, where Twilight's Princess was one of the top anticipated games, is over). User:Phils/sig 22:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

Yom Kippur

Hi, Raul, I hope you liked the Gonen article. I have to say that regarding the dispute with ElC, I tend to agree with him. The revelations about Kippur really shook up Israeli society, and continue to reverberate today, especially in regard to the people's trust of the political system. It is a very essential aspect of the war and should be reiterated. Just my $0.02. Danny 01:09, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

Ok, that's fine by me. →Raul654 01:45, May 28, 2005 (UTC)

Template

Take a look at Template talk:WikiProject Polish Army. Halibutt 05:26, May 30, 2005 (UTC)

Commons image

Yo. I accidentally overwrote one of your images on Commons. It gave me the "changing filename" warning, and I didn't notice that it was also giving an "already exists" warning. Anyway, I overwrote Image:National Museum of African Art.jpg, so if you want to upload yours again over mine, go ahead. Sorry about this. Isomorphic 07:44, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

Never mind, I realized it allows you to revert. Commons must have some different software. I assumed the old image was gone. Isomorphic 07:48, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

FAC Promotion Request

Good sir, I am writing to ask for the long awaited advancement of Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Starfleet ranks and insignia to Featured article status. In the second nomination the following items were handled:

1. Shortened table of contents
2. Removed conjectural info that had no sources
3. Added in-line citations
4. Added several pictures
5. Added more references

I feel Ive done everything possible to make this into a featured article candidate. I now have five supports and one object and the object I beleive was handled. I left a message on the Users talk page asking him to confirm, but this was 4 days ago and I have heard nothing.

I also apologize for the nasty debate which occured. The user who started it I feel had no good intentions and was arguing against the very existence of the article. I see it as a society article, speaking of ranks and insignia and how this production franchise has incorporated them over the past forty years. It is a good article and deserves recognition. Can we advance now to FA? Thanks. -Husnock 08:15, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

Husnock - No no, it's perfectly all right. This kind of philsophical debate is good from time to time. I wanted to write you earlier to tell you I think you've done a great job on the article (yes, I'm a trek fan, and yes, I did recognize your name). Just to let you know - I don't promote nominations from the fac until at least 5 days have passed (usually more for controversial noms so as to give people time to express an opinion), and only then if there's a consensus (e.g, most people support it) there aren't any serious objections. (Most serious objections are facutual or copyright related). The insignea nomination is only 3 days old. In the mean time, go fix the things mav is objecting to -- those are definitely actionable and I'd like to see them fixed before I promote.

Now, I admit that Peter (Karmosin) does have a sort of intangible point about avoiding 'crufy' featured articles. On the other hand, I really don't see the harm in citing it as one of our best articles, because (systemic bias concerns aside) it really is one of our top articles. So, the big concern then becomes the main page - e.g., not flaunting our geek bias. As such, I'm *extremely* conservative when I schedule these kinds of uber-nerdy articles for the main page. →Raul654 08:41, May 30, 2005 (UTC)

Well, after our talk this user went around and invited some other users to "comment" on the article, knowing full well they would viciously object as they did last time. One particualr user I feel should be sanctioned for rather nasty attacks on the FAC page and calling the article names. But, I'm not an admin. Anyway, there is stuff on tehre now like breaking up the entire article and getting rid of the tables. I also added the inline citations but there are comments the sources are "dubious"? Hmmm. Where this rabid hatred of the article comes from I don't know. I think people just dont want to see it as an FA and will say whatever is needed to block it. Anyway, thanks for your support. As I don't see breaking up the entire article and rewriting it as an option, I'm running out of ideas. -Husnock 20:20, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

I have in fact reported the User in question at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents for borderline personal attacks. I was going to let it go until I saw the part of "Vietnamese sweat shops" and "rounding up my buddies" to get an FAC pushed through. Very inappropriate. -Husnock 20:59, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

I read the complaint you filed there. I think you're taking this a bit too personally. As far as I can see, every bit of his criticism was directed at the article, and not you personally. I understand how you could be upset, but editing on Wikipedia means you need to develop a bit of a thick skin and not be hurt by criticism of your writing. My advice to you is to avoid escalating the situation. →Raul654 21:40, May 30, 2005 (UTC)

request

Hi. Please look at my reply to your request on my talk page. Thank you Almog 10:51, 31 May 2005 (UTC)

Minor grammar error in your user page

At one place, you've written "I've starting writing". Please change it to "I've started writing". -- Sundar (talk • contribs) 10:56, May 31, 2005 (UTC)

Good call - thanks for the information. :) →Raul654 10:59, May 31, 2005 (UTC)

Steve Dalkowski

Hi Raul... was wondering when this FA will be placed on the front page? His birthday falls on June 3rd so this might be a good date to do it. Cheers... Zerbey 17:12, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Ok, I've gone ahead and scheduled it for the 3rd. →Raul654 08:48, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)

Sounds good, thanks! Zerbey 12:46, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Impersonator

I think User:70.93.214.48 may be impersonating you. → JarlaxleArtemis 00:39, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)

Oops. Never mind. Your edits temporarily disappeared from the Talk:Main Page edit history for some reason. They're back now. → JarlaxleArtemis 00:43, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)

That's a cache issue, methinks. →Raul654 00:48, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)

No, that's yesterday's bogeyman. Today's is database replication lag. ☺ --cesarb 01:23, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Re: Warning

You've got it wrong, I did not vote oppose because it failed.... I cannot in good faith, based on my experiences, vote support for that nomination. If a RFDa process were in place, I would at least move to Neutral. Surely, you're not really trying to make an argument that my lone vote is disruptive of Wikipedia, even if I was trying to make a point. -- Netoholic @ 03:31, 2005 Jun 2 (UTC)

If you didn't think Linuxbeak qualified, you should have said so and (respectfully) kept your mouth shut about the rest of it. Saying that you would have voted differently if we had a deadminship policy does *nothing* except make people suspect your motives for voting, as I did. You might want to keep this in mind in the future. →Raul654 03:46, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)

Urgent! Help!

Raul, I don't know where to ask. My password for the account of the same name on Tamil wikipedia has been cracked and the e-mail address is also probably changed. Because I haven't received the e-mail giving new password that I requested for. Please do something about it. There are several evidences linking this user id in en wikipedia with that. Also it has been linked to my e-mail id (sundarbecse in yahoo domain), since I've e-mailed User:Ravidreams on both the Tamil wiki and the English wiki. Also, since I'm an admin there (and also here) it needs to be blocked immediately before any damage is done. -- Sundar (talk • contribs) 05:19, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks Raul. Will wait for the e-mail to come. -- Sundar 05:35, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)

Glad I could help :) →Raul654 05:37, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)

Hi, I don't know if this is related at all, but this morning (CDT) when I tried to log in to Wikipedia, it wouldn't work. I am using my family's computer; there is no one here who would vandalize, but as I'm an administrator, I wouldn't want someone clicking something by accident, so I always log out. I haven't ever changed my password on Wikipedia so I was very surprised that I kept getting an incorrect password error. I checked my contributions (my last one was still the most recent, fortunately), then requested a new password by e-mail and changed it. It works fine now. I just thought that it was a weird glitch or something but something similar happened to Sundar I thought I'd mention it. — Knowledge Seeker দ 05:41, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Knowledge Seeker - was this on the Tamil wikipedia as well? →Raul654 05:43, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)

I think I faced the same glitch as that of Knowledge Seeker in Tamil wiki. Noone seems to have cracked my account, at least, noone else has used it and I got the new password over e-mail. -- Sundar 05:46, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)

Raul: Sorry for not being specific; no, it was here on en. It may just be a coincidence but it was very odd. — Knowledge Seeker দ 06:09, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I suppose it is possible that it could be related to the maintence that was going on last night and/or the password salting. Either way, it sounds like you guys are OK now. →Raul654 06:15, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)

Yes, thanks Raul! — Knowledge Seeker দ 07:22, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I appear to have a similar problem on the English Wikipedia which just appeared today. How can I get this fixed? -- JamesTeterenko 17:47, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Ok, Brion managed to track down the problem. If, prior to the mainteince last week, you (or someone else) requested a new password for you account, then but you ignored the new password and kept using the old one -- that's what broke your account.

To get back to your account, request that a new password be emailed to you. It might take a while because the servers have been innundated with requests, but it should get there "eventually" (figure a day or two max). →Raul654 19:04, Jun 6, 2005 (UTC)

To further make my situation difficult, I have more information. I just did a test and my email address as noted in my account is one that was disabled a week ago. So, I am not able to get any emails from the "E-mail this user" feature or the "E-mail new password". I do have an accurate email ID for the Commons at my User page (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:JamesTeterenko). Please help. -- JamesTeterenko 19:17, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Ok, in that case, a developer has to manually change the email address. The best place to find one is on IRC (freenode) in #mediawiki. They're (rightfully) suspicious about these kinds of things, but just explain your situation to them like you did to me, and tell them to use the same email address as your commons account uses and it shouldn't be a problem. →Raul654 19:42, Jun 6, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. My problem seems to have resolved itself. On my home computer, my Wikipedia cookie was still good. I was able to update my email address in my preferences. I then asked for another password and changed it back to what it was. Strange, yes, but it worked. -- JamesTeterenko 00:27, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the kind words...

on my talk page! I got all obsessed with the Deep Throat revelation and revised almost anything that linked to it. I hate red links! Now I better get back to my day job! Jokestress 08:46, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

To-do template

Hello, is it possible to change the background color of the to-do template to a more neutral color like light blue or light grey?--Witkacy 12:00, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Certianly. If you look at that template carefully, you'll see a line that says:

style="background:#efefef;

efefef are three hexademical values coding for Red, green, and blue. FFFFFF is white, and 000000 is black. A moderately lighter grey would be (for example) F7F7F7. →Raul654 12:06, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)

PS - RGB color model explains it in more detail. →Raul654 12:08, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)

Thx i see it now :), is it also possible to change the khaki/brown frame around it?--Witkacy 12:34, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

No, don't touch the khaki brown -- that's part of the template standard. See Wikipedia:Template standardisation. The whole idea is that all the talk page templates are supposed to be the same size and color. →Raul654 12:40, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)

aha, ok thanks a lot :)--Witkacy 12:47, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Swedish language

I do not understand how FAC works. I understood that an article would not be promoted while there were valid objections. I believe that there are sourcing omissions in this article and made that objection. Peter (the "author"/sponsor) said that the sourcing was fine so I indicated where I felt there were some specific omissions. I can see that I updated the FAC subpage just after you had promoted the article but at the time of promotion there was the open question "Anything missing?" from Peter. Have I misunderstood the process? Is it another consensus mechanism? --Theo (Talk) 18:57, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Have you overlooked my questions? --Theo (Talk) 23:17, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Whoops! Sorry, I meant to get back to you. The FAC, like most pages, works on consensus, and consensus is not unanimity. Basically, when I promote nominations, I look to see that a nomination has a certain minimum number of supports (usually at least 4), and that it has "a lot" of support (e.g., that most people - figure in the neigborhood of three quarters - support it), and that there aren't any "serious" objections. A serious objection is an objection along that lines that an article is heavily biased, or factually inaccurate, or that it is (or contains) a copyright violation. Something like this is enough to veto a nomination. In the case of the swedish language nomination, I saw a lot of support, and a handful of suggestions/objections (almost all of which were struck out), but I didn't see anything that I thought was serious. →Raul654 23:45, Jun 3, 2005 (UTC)

Thank you. My confusion clears: I had misunderstood the process. Theo (Talk) 07:13, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Jguk's container pages

Hey Raul - Jguk is using a bizarre scheme whereby 'articles' (template container pages, really) are built using transclusion (not unlike the FAC page). What's worse is he is using the wikipedia:namespace from WikiProject subpages to hold article prose and then linking directly to that from the headings on the container page. For an example see: 2005 English cricket season (8-30 April) (a page he is putting through peer review at Wikipedia:Peer review/2005 English cricket season (8-30 April) with the intent of finishing it up before FAC). Please add your input on this practice at Wikipedia talk:Template namespace#transcluding prose. --mav 21:27, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thanks :) --mav 23:01, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Template:Idw

-- The logo is obsolete now, replaced with Image:Hfh logo new.jpg --MC MasterChef 12:18, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

No objection here. →Raul654 02:11, Jun 4, 2005 (UTC)

Golan Heights image

The image you asked about (Image:New community on the Golan .jpg) was not added by me, but by User:Leifern.Yuber^(talk) 13:28, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Oh man, that's what I get for editing wikipedia too early in the morning. I was looking at Image:Majdalshams.jpg and must have missed the PD tag. Sorry. Please disregard. →Raul654 16:23, Jun 3, 2005 (UTC)

Password trouble

Hi Raul,

Apologies for bothering you in this way. My password (I'm actually Tempshill) stopped working several days ago, and the "E-mail me the password" button doesn't work. At Wikipedia:Help Desk, someone dropped your name; apparently there have been password problems for a few other people as well recently. Thanks for any help you can offer -- Tempshill2 17:04, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

This seems to be happening a lot lately. If you look up (in the Urgent! Help needed!) section, Sundar and Knowledge Seeker both had this problem. It's probably related to the recent passwording salting that the devs instituted. Anyway, the email-this-user button doesn't work because this is happening to *a lot* of people and the mail server is, um, bogged down (it had 2,000 emails in it when Sundar asked for help). My advice is to wait a little while (48 hours) to see if the email with your new password arrives. →Raul654 17:10, Jun 3, 2005 (UTC)

Actually, when I click the 'mail me a new password' link, I am immediately told that I have no e-mail address on file, which is almost certainly incorrect. Any advice? Tempshill2 18:19, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Well, according to the email-this-user function (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Emailuser&target=Tempshill) - your account had no associated email address. The developers can manually set one, if you want (at which point, you should be able to request a new password). The best way to do this would be to get on IRC and ask them in #mediawiki on Freenode. I can do it for you, if you want, but that might take longer. →Raul654 18:24, Jun 3, 2005 (UTC)

I found someone who fixed it; thanks for the pointer. It had to do with an old password from the past not having been converted to a newer format. Thanks! Tempshill 21:37, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Yes. See Salt (cryptography) →Raul654 21:40, Jun 3, 2005 (UTC)

Contraversy?

Now that you have taken my advice and started staying away from controversial topics - have you found your editing here more pleasant and enjoyable? →Raul654 23:52, Jun 3, 2005 (UTC)

No I feel myself in a complete void. :) --Cool Cat ^{My Talk} 00:34, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Question for you

I don't know enough to even begin talking about this, but you do - I was flipping through some pages when the Gamefaqs article caught my eye. So much of the entry is simply going on about their individual forums and jargon. I know other, less notable, pages have caught crap for this (especially the Kenzerco forums), but is Gamefaqs large enough to be notable? plz comment thx bye 216.158.31.195 20:02, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

If you don't think a page should exist, you can nominate it on Wikipedia:Votes for deletion - be warned, however, that that page is a prepetual battleground, and (in my opinion) it is overly inclusive -- manifestly non-notable things get kept, more often than not. →Raul654 06:25, Jun 5, 2005 (UTC)

NPOV AIDS

I noted all the suggestions on the talk page and edited the definiton to include them all. Then it is reverted without comment or discussion! Please discuss the article Sci guy 01:45, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Actually, I specifically said that copying a definition and calling it an introduction is inherently bad writing. The version you reverted includes all kinds of useful information necesary to introduce the subject not present in your defintion (the number of people infected, the history of the disease, etc). The version you were removing was most decidedly better for that reason. →Raul654 01:51, Jun 4, 2005 (UTC)

Promoted Clivia miniata

Missing image Clivia_miniata1.jpg

Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted Your nomination for featured picture status, Image:Clivia miniata1.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates.

Congrats! --Spangineer (háblame) 01:53, Jun 4, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks a bunch for fixing the link I was placing on The Star Spangled Banner. I missed the description tag, but I hope a recording like what I made will work for the encyclopedia. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 01:58, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I listened to it - the sound was barely audible. I kicked it up by 9 decibels but it's still pretty low. Also, you're a bit flat, but that's not so much of a big deal ;) →Raul654 06:25, Jun 5, 2005 (UTC)

Re: Good work!

Thank you :)

Unfortunately, my life has been a bit crazy lately, so I haven't been able to email it within half an hour of 0:00 UTC every day (I'm sometimes a couple hours late :$). Hopefully things will clear up by the end of the month, and I'll be able to be on time more consistently :)

Thanks again for your message, I really appreciate it a lot. Take care! -Frazzydee|✍ 14:06, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

You're welcome :) →Raul654 06:25, Jun 5, 2005 (UTC)

Reference templates

(re: Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates#Extremely important problem!)

I think it's not the templates that are broken...

If you look at the generated source in the example you've given (libertarianism), you can see the {{{1}}} is being expanded on the link, but not within the id attribute.

This makes me think of a recently fixed security bug, where the expansion of a template could be used to bypass the HTML filters. I saw it first at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#What was that?, which gives a date (yesterday) and a bug number (2304).

If the date matches with your experience, that could be that the cause (a side effect of the fix); I have not looked at the code, but I can guess the parts of the code involved in both the security fix and the recent template problems are the same.

--cesarb 17:40, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

This is bugzilla:2309. --Brion 23:23, Jun 4, 2005 (UTC)

Great Match!!

Thanks for the match. I was only a bit annoyed by the community pressure. You played a superb game and what kills me the most in hindsight was blocking my queen-side bishop with my queenside knight prematurely. SDSUPinoy 19:59, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Main Page

Hello, just curious as to how you go about selecting FA's for the main page. Phoenix2 01:45, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

It's not really rocket science. When I pick articles, I look for interesting ones, and I try to avoid having too many articles from a particular country/subject featured in a short period of time - particularly ones related to pop-culture or "geeky" ones (which we have a distinct bias towards). It used to be a lot harder back in the old days, when featured articles didn't really have the good introductions they do today. I also try to fulfill requests I get on wikipedia talk:tomorrow's featured article whenever possible. →Raul654 06:25, Jun 5, 2005 (UTC)

Powell

I don't have sources for the questions you raise. Adam 06:28, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Hrmm... that's unfortunate. →Raul654 04:01, Jun 7, 2005 (UTC)

Karamazov

Good call on that one. It's probably one of my favourite, if not the favourite, works in the Western canon. Are you ever on AIM anymore? I need to talk to you. 216.158.31.195 18:55, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Basically, my question was, how do I get my older contribs (as 216.158.31.195) to show up on my new (Jasonglchu) contributions? Is there any way to get the one into the other, or do I just start from scratch? Nothing big. Jasonglchu 13:49, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

In theory, you can make a request on Wikipedia:Changing attribution for an edit. On the other hand, the warning at the top of the page says -- Edits have not been reattributed for some months. There are no indications when requests made here will be executed, if ever. Chances are very good that requests there will be ignored forever. →Raul654 16:02, Jun 8, 2005 (UTC)

The Bros and The Pope

It is sort of surprising I guess, which is why I thought it would be interesting to include... I must disagree with you about "it's a bit of a stretch to categorize Benedict as an author". As Cardinal Ratzinger he kept up an incredible rate of writing and publishing. I'm not talking about internal Church stuff-- I mean books you can find on Amazon. He's authored or co-authored around 50 commercially sold books. In fact, you can see here (http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/books/220893_tf221.html?source=rss) that he's even been making some bestseller lists. JDG 20:33, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

wikistress level

Thanks for noticing. Yes, things are getting better, though I've been less active lately as well. Been dealing with a growingly active Simple: Wikipedia. The stress around that meta-template junk was a major factor and now that it's "gone", I'm better. Thanks for your help with that. -- Netoholic @ 22:54, 2005 Jun 7 (UTC)

An Image Tag?

About the Damascus by night picture. Being a newbie and given the little time I currently can give to Wikipedia, one that will stay so for a while, I am afraid I cannot respond to your request, unless you help understand what you meant :-). In all cases, feel free to edit my contributions dear Raul654 as you seem vastly more involved in here than i ever will be --Zelidar 21:13, 2005 Jun 9 (UTC)

Everyking IRC request

Yes, I can be there...I have plans in the early/middle part of the day (EST) but other than that I should be free and I'll make a point to go into IRC and see if you're in there. Everyking 06:09, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Ama'n

Say, Raul, it just occured to me... Does Rabinovich actually writes AMAN? I don't believe I've seen that before. I realize you thought it was an acronym (thus, it would make sense to capitalize – but if it was, it'd be two not three letters), but it's an abbreviation. I've seen Aman used, and a quick search shows it is the prevalent use. I am, in fact, in favour of the jewishvirtuallibrary.org's (http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Society_&_Culture/anan1.html) A'man as the most correct name for the article/subject in English. So, unless you have any objections, I'm going to rename it accordingly. Regards, El_C 10:09, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Yes, he writes "AMAN" - in all caps - and does so throughout the book. →Raul654 18:41, Jun 10, 2005 (UTC)

But no, I have no objection if you want to switch to the more prevalant english usage. →Raul654 18:42, Jun 10, 2005 (UTC)

Roger that. Why did I say three? Four! Yes, I think he errs on this in two interrelated ways: first giving the reader the impression it's a four-word acornym rather than a two-word abbrevation, & thereby also failing to convey that in Israel, it is pronounced A'man (and, in fact, rarely are the two words, Agaf Modiin, used in normal speech), similiarly to the pronounciation of Shabak (Shin Bet), or Shabas (prisons service), Magav (border service), etc. I didn't pick up on it right away since I haven't read much of this sort of material through English language sources. *** Quick question: is my spelling of inteligence for these purposes (as opposed to IQ, etc.) in error, or is that distinction a product of my feverish mind? TIA. El_C 21:27, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Netoholic

Netoholic has found himself a revert war on WP:POINT Snowspinner 15:08, Jun 10, 2005 (UTC)

... and Snowspinner has found himself a WP:POINT to make. -- Netoholic @ 15:11, 2005 Jun 10 (UTC)

And now he's attacking me on the talk page of WP:RFAR and reopening a settled edit war at WP:TROLL. Snowspinner 17:35, Jun 10, 2005 (UTC)

That was fairly well premature and, frankly, a cop-out. This would have been an ideal situation for you to "assist my communication" rather than pander to a tattler. Especially on WP:POINT, my most recent edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Don%27t_disrupt_Wikipedia_to_illustrate_a_point&diff=next&oldid=14983613) was toward compromise, and now you've cut off that process without even discussing with me. -- Netoholic @ 18:20, 2005 Jun 10 (UTC)

Why don't you come on IRC and we can talk about it. →Raul654 18:36, Jun 10, 2005 (UTC)

In all fairness, this is the first time I saw this note about IRC. I got distracted with other things and never checked back here for a reply from you. -- Netoholic @ 05:47, 2005 Jun 15 (UTC)

Lir

Hi. I'm breaking for a bit, but I was wondering what your reasoning was for considering this (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ARaul654&diff=14383263&oldid=14379911) to be Lir? ✏ OvenFresh² 20:59, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Lir's idiotic vandalism tends to follow a particular pattern (especially along the lines of leaving incoherent messages on my talk page) and that one fits the pattern perfectly. →Raul654 18:25, Jun 12, 2005 (UTC)

Zoroastrianism

Raul, have a serious issue on Zoroastrianism. It says:

Traditional Jews and Christians typically seek to place Zoroaster's life at as late a date as possible, so as to avoid the conclusion that much of the theology and morality of the non-Torah parts of the Old Testament derive from Zoroastrianism, the ideas having flowed into Judaism during the Babylonian captivity which happened shortly after 600 BC.

I have a user on the talk page telling me that this is not POV writing, but standard scholarly opinion. Your contribution to this conversation would be most appreciated. - Ta bu shi da yu 03:15, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Former featured articles

Good day. As Featured Articles and things related are generally your gig, I thought I'd let you know that I have created a list, not dissimilar from the Wikipedia:Featured articles page, of Former featured articles.

I did this in part for convenience (as the only way to track down what had been a featured article was to dig through the archive - which is exactly what I had to do to create this page). I believe a list like this is important because it illustrates that a page can evolve both ways, and that wikipedia standards have changed over the years.

I also created a shortcut for it, tweaked the {{featuredtools}} template, and added references to it on the various FA-related pages. I was rather bold with this, so if you see that it needs improvement, (obviously) just change it.

Thanks for your time. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson 06:47, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Moving images to commons

Hello. How to mark Image:Shakespeare.jpg to deletion because it is moved to commons as commons:Image:Shakespeare.jpg ? I am sysop on pl: Wikipedia and I can delete his image only on pl: Wikipedia ? Lzur 09:21, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I know :) {{NowCommons|Image:Shakespeare.jpg}}. Lzur 09:39, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I've gone ahead and deleted the en version -- problem solved. →Raul654 18:10, Jun 12, 2005 (UTC)

Koufax article

Hi, Raul. I think I was the lone "object" vote on this article. This is no big deal, and in the end the article (on one of my top sports heros, along with Jim Ryun) ended up quite good. However, my objection was that the article was pretty much a "book report" on Jane Leavy's fine book. She told Koufax's story in an interesting fashion, interspersing his life history in the midst of describing, inning by inning, the devolution of his perfect game. The wikipedia biography reads in similar fashion, unlike other sports bios. Now that I think of it, I have done similar work ... reading a book on a topic and then later basing a wiki article on that knowledge. "Alfred Lee Loomis" comes to mind. But for that reason, I didn't think those kind of articles were FA status. Again, this is an observation, not an objection. If I'd felt strongly about it, I would have kept hammering the point on the FAC page. Just one more thing to keep in mind. Sfahey 03:40, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Template:Disinfopedia

Template:Tl, which you created, has been replaced by Template:Tl. Because there are no longer any articles that use the old template, the redirect is no longer necessary. Therefore Template:Disinfopedia has been nominated for deletion at WP:TFD. BlankVerse ∅ 11:10, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Congress

Congress has recently enacted a certain law which I think you need to be aware of (http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Nose_picking_law). --Jondel 05:52, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I'm amused :) →Raul654 17:20, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks!

I somehow neglected that. Thanks for pointing it out. *Satis 01:54, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Template:PromotedFPC

Nasty Bugger

Hey Raul654: I saw this (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment&curid=449877&diff=0&oldid=0) was just posted by 62.253.96.42, and I thought you might want to know. Beyond that, it looks like he's back re-vandalizing the pages you reverted. Check out Special:Contributions/62.253.96.40; at least the last two are image removals. Thought you might want to deal with the obvious horsehockey at RfC and maybe give 62.253.96.42 a good thrashing. Happy hunting! Essjay · talk 09:51, Jun 15, 2005 (UTC)

• Was it the image removals you blocked him for? I noticed he's also been warned for nonsense creation. Note: I've moved the RFC he started on you to an appropriate subpage to avoid accusations of bias or anything. - Mgm|^(talk) 11:01, Jun 15, 2005 (UTC)
  • I blocked him for the image removals, combined with the fact that (from his talk page) I saw he had been warned repeatedly before for vandalism and nonsensical editing. →Raul654 14:35, Jun 15, 2005 (UTC)

Need some help

Hey, Mark: Allareequal has been up to a pretty annoying thing today... pretty much all day, nonstop, he has been making nonsensical, overly generalised, nonencyclopaedic lists, and he refuses to stop. He has way too many to list them individually on VfD. Could you help me out with him? I don't know what to do - it's not really a case of vandalism, just a very stubborn, unintentionally abusive user. Thanks. jglc | t | c 18:09, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Post Scriptum: His lists include List of Star Wars villians, List of children's movies, List of foods that contain rice, List of Tony Hawk Pro Skater video games, List of suspense movies, List of X-Men villains, List of movies with Ghost in the title, List of well known people with the last name Moon, List of fictional captains, List of Star Wars villains, List of movies with the word Hero in it (amusingly enough, the only entry on the list is Hero), along with List of comedy movies and List of online auctions.

He just created List of movies with New York in the title jglc | t | c 18:11, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I've wiped out the most stupid of the pack. Most (if not all) of the rest are redundant with categories and should be deleted after going through the VFD. I've also dropped a stern warning on his talk page. →Raul654 18:25, Jun 15, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks a bunch. I gave him a little chat on his User_Talk, and we're on roughly the same page now - he knows what's up. I don't anticipate any more problems; probably a few bumps in the road, but he seems to be moving in the right direction. I appreciate the help. jglc | t | c 18:27, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thank you

Hey Raul, thanks for your message. I really appreciate it. Cheers, SlimVirgin ^(talk) 21:38, Jun 15, 2005 (UTC)

You're welcome. →Raul654 20:11, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC)

Chess

If Wikipedia's elite chess tournament isn't accepting new players, where can I sign up for the next one? --WikiFan04^{ß 00:21, 16 Jun 2005 (CDT)}

I'm not quite sure -- I suspect the next one will not start until the current one has finished; at the rate it's progressing, it will probably be at least a few months until that happens. →Raul654 05:31, Jun 16, 2005 (UTC)

Warren County Canal

When I suggested this for featured-article-of-the-day, you posted a note wondering if we could get an illustration other than a map. I checked the web-site of the Middletown, Ohio, public library, and found a general drawing of a canalboat from that era (circa 1840). I've posted that to the article and moved the map down in the article. PedanticallySpeaking 15:01, Jun 16, 2005 (UTC)

Good work! →Raul654 04:52, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC)

Shrek32

Need some admin help on this. User:Shrek32 has been adding links to fictional video games and movies in the fictional "Amber Sparks" and "Brooke Fox" series to various Lists of Movies and Lists of Video Games (i.e. Xbox 360, Nintendo Revolution, Nintendo DS, Gameboy Advance, Playstation 3, Playstation 2, Playstation Pocket). He just started adding entries for "The Doodlebops" - which also do not exist. His rate of vandalism is very high (just look at Special:Contributions/Shrek32; could you do a personal favour to me and help me out with shutting him down?

I am also submitting to Vandalism in Progress, just in case.

jglc | t | c 21:05, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Template:Personal

FYI, I have responded to your comment on WP:AN. - Ta bu shi da yu 02:15, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

P.S. What is our blocking policy in regards to personal attacks? I was not aware that we had one. - Ta bu shi da yu 02:17, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

RFA; climate ch: motion to close: objecting

You have voted to close this case. I object: the remedy aginst me is still unsupported by FoF, and my questions [5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_arbitration/Climate_change_dispute/Proposed_decision#Objecting_to:_William_M._Connolley:_Six_month_revert_parole_on_certain_article) remain unanswered. - User:William M. Connolley

There are actually two remedies that apply to you -- 2.2 and 2.3. I presume you are referring to the latter. (Remedy 2.2, which I wrote, is a simple warning to avoid sterile edit wars). Your complaint about 2.3 is misdirected here -- Ambi and I voted against that remedy. →Raul654 17:44, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC)

Yes, fair enough, I know you did. Oh... OK, I'll go and talk to Grunt. William M. Connolley 20:45, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC).

Tote the Ranks

Raul654 of the Wikipedians, I hearby promote you to the rank of Wiki Administrator, with all the privileges and responsibilities that it entails. :)

This is your ASCII insignia: (*****~)

func(talk) 18:52, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

couple of questions:

1. i need to upload about 60-70 images in commons, ALL tagged the same way. I am trying to create an article about my city's wireless community network, (Patras Wireless Network), and I asked the users of the network to take pics of their antennas, their surroundings and a pic of their Access Point from their location. So, the upload interface will suck ass, because there's no way in hell i'll upload 70 pics one by one :D *HEAD EXPLODES* as you were the only one i remember with an album, i thought i'd ask if you know any alternatives. I think i have enough material in that article to make it a FAC. it's going slow though :)
2. i read your rules. so, what do i do to prevent astroturfing? i mean, yeah, well, besides the bullet-in-your-head method... I mean, yeah, it works, but then i couldn't edit any more ^_^

thanks in advance :)

Project2501a 17:44, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

1. Read Commons:Commons:File upload service.
2. No one has yet devised a silver-bullet against astroturfing. Detecting it would be the hardest thing of all. It's a special-case of the whole POV pushing problem I outlined in the Arbom's RFC. →Raul654 22:28, Jun 18, 2005 (UTC)

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OK, thank you for telling me. Everyking 05:53, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Happy Birthday

Happy birthday Mark! =Nichalp «Talk»= 09:30, Jun 19, 2005 (UTC)

Thank you :) →Raul654 09:39, Jun 19, 2005 (UTC)

oyaji-san, happy birthday! here's your present! Project2501a 12:28, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Image:Alois Brunner.jpg

Unfortunately, the only birthday present I have for you is a note to ask you to change the copyright tag on this image... You uploaded it under Template:Tl, but this tag did not accurately state German copyright law. The image is not yet PD; however, it may be usable under fair use. Could you consider changing the tag to Template:Tl. Cheers, and happy birthday! Physchim62 13:00, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

No, actually, I uploaded it long before we had image tagging (someone has subseqently added a tag, the accuracy of which I am not sure). I don't remember where I got it now -- it was some site on the web. →Raul654 04:51, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC)

Everyking mentorship

I am very distressed at the speed with which you took down the Everyking mentorship discussion from the RfAr page once you got the 4th vote you were jockeying for. How does it hurt to leave it up for more than a few minutes so we could see who placed the votes? And once you've changed the rules of an arbcomm decision and parole, it would be nice if you'd notify the other admins so we know what to do and what not to do when we encounter someone who apprears to be violating their parole. RickK 21:42, Jun 19, 2005 (UTC)

Sorry about that. I didn't leave it up because every member of the arbcom (save 2, one of whom - Mav - is concentrating on CFO duties instead of arbcom stuff) was either inactive or had expressed an opinion. I'll be more mindful in the future to give notification. →Raul654 22:20, Jun 19, 2005 (UTC)

jguk case

The preliminary decision is already in, and the majority votes have already been cast. RickK 04:39, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)

Suffice it to say, we are actively discussing the matter and the final decision will almost certainly be very different than the current proposed one. →Raul654 05:19, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)

A'man2

Hey, Raul. Since I renamed IDoMI back to A'man, the A'man page looks strange on my watchlist. Would you know how to fix it? Thanks in advance. Oh, and happy belated BDay! :) El_C 11:40, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I'm not really sure what you mean - in what way does it look weird?. →Raul654 04:49, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC)

Iwo Jima for deletion

While checking which images I'd like to save (Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)#Image_copyrights), I noticed that Image:Iwo Jima Flag Raising.jpeg was uploaded by you. Consider changing the copyright tag. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus ^Talk 16:38, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I uploaded it as PD (which the government pages classify it as but the AP apparently does not); someone later got permission from the AP and changed the tag accordingly. →Raul654 04:49, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks... =

...for helping me out. And, happy birthday! Looks like I got back just in time...it's your birthday, but I got the present.  :^) Have an extra slice of cake for both of us, hear? - Lucky 6.9 20:41, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thank you. →Raul654 04:49, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC)

Chess

My opponent just came out of the hospital. he was in a car accident. i think i'll wait a bit till he recovers and lets me know he's ok :) Project2501a 22:56, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

New Category on WP:FA

I have a question: I wish to create a category of FA's called "Awards and Decorations." I know there are some decorations stuck under the military and war section (Medal of Honor), chivilary (Order of the Bath) and culture and society (Hero of Belarus). I was wondering if you would have any problems with that? Zscout370 (Sound Off) 05:20, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Uh, yes - if by "category", you mean a new section on Wikipedia:featured articles - I'd prefer not to add one like that because it overlaps (heavily) with several other existing ones. →Raul654 05:28, Jun 21, 2005 (UTC)

That is what I mean. The articles affected, other than the three I mentioned, are: Order of the Garter · Order of St Patrick and Order of the Thistle. Once the Awards and Decorations section is created, it will be removed from the other sections, unless that is a major problem. I also wish to do this since one or two medals are going through FAC (Iron Cross and a Polish decoration) and I am pushing through my second FAC, Order of Canada through the Peer review process. I just wanted to make sure it was ok with everyone before I did anything. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 05:43, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Weird bot edits

If you don't like it, feel free to change it. However, the capitalization of the link is not seen by the user (except on the status line), and it doesn't affect the ability to link to the article because the software automatically capitalizes the first letter in all links, so (to me) it's not a big deal. Russ Blau (talk) 16:34, Jun 21, 2005 (UTC)

Cambini media files problem

I'm pleased that you added media files to the article on Giuseppe Cambini. Unfortunately, there is a glitch that causes each link to send me back to the Wikipedia main page, and the Info link sends me to a page that says something like "Image movement 1 .ogg doesn't exist." Del arte 22:12, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Netoholic, again

Take a look (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Weyes2). Didn't you already yell at him for this exact reason? Linuxbeak | Talk | Desk 03:24, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC)

Excuse me?

Do you have a problem with my contribution to RickK's exit? 68.97.208.123 04:45, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

→Raul654 04:49, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC)

FAC

I have a FAC (Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Democratic Labour Party (Trinidad and Tobago)) up which has gotten comments from only three users in 12 days. I have addressed their concerns to the point where all three voted Support. However, there haven't been any more comments. Are three opinions adequate (it seems a bit thin to me), or should I go out and solicit input from other editors? Thanks. Guettarda 05:42, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

As you can see, I just did some archiving and promoting. 3 supports is a little thin, yes. I'll leave it there a little longer; hopefully, it'll get a few more supports so I'll feel comfortable promoting, but if no one objects after some days, I'll probably just go ahead and promote it. →Raul654 06:13, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC)

Neto?

Out of curiosity - is Neto's mentoring lifted? I've seen no activity on the mentoring page, and quite some WikiSpace activity by him. I'm not saying I disagree with any of that, but people were recently discussing whether mentoring actually works, so I was wondering if this was resolved, abandoned or still active. Radiant_>|< 08:02, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC)

Help needed

Raul, I need you on IRC pronto. There's something we need to discuss. Linuxbeak | Talk | Desk 21:09, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC)

In regard to the anon. IP vandalism to the proposed decision page for Kainthescion's RfAr...

Traced two of them... one traces back to Amsterdam according to Geobytes (Whois basically says the same thing, tracing it back to an ISP based in the Netherlands), but the second ended up tracing back to an ISP in Italy. Here's the thing... that ISP was classified as a LOCAL service provider. I'm starting to think that we may have a bunch of vandals who are simply attempting to make the situation even worse. Traces I did on alleged sockpuppets of Enviroknot seem to suggest the same thing... Geobytes traced two of the four IPs it could find to Houston, a third to a city in Nevada, and a fourth to Toronto... yes, as in Canada. I've read quite a bit about a group of trolls called the GNAA... perhaps they're behind this? I seriously doubt that these IPs could all be used by the same person. Of course, I could be wrong... but it doesn't seem logical. --Chanting Fox 04:03, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

It's probably one person exploiting open proxies. →Raul654 04:04, Jun 23, 2005 (UTC)

• Perhaps... but i traced 65.75.150.102 (another anon. IP that vandalized the page)... and Geobytes said it was 90 percent certain that it was located in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. As for the open proxies... I'd need to know if they could fool Geobytes. Geographically these IP addresses are going all over the place.--Chanting Fox 04:11, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • I think you misunderstand -- I agree that it looks like these are coming all over the place. On the other hand, they could all be controlled by a single user remotely - e.g, they are his proxies. →Raul654 04:13, Jun 23, 2005 (UTC)
• So how can you tell whether or not that is the case? For that matter, would I be able to... or would that require more priveledges than I have? --Chanting Fox 04:16, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • I scanned several of the IPs with nmap and sure enough some of them were running as proxies.

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[~/]> nmap -p 80,8080 65.75.150.102

Starting nmap V. 3.00 ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ )

Interesting ports on (65.75.150.102):

(The 1 port scanned but not shown below is in state: closed)

Port State Service

8080/tcp filtered http-proxy

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[~/]> nmap -p 80,8080 72.9.242.90

Starting nmap V. 3.00 ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ )

Interesting ports on grcm.net (72.9.242.90):

Port State Service

80/tcp open http

8080/tcp filtered http-proxy

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This appears to confirm my theory. →Raul654 04:23, Jun 23, 2005 (UTC)

All the ones I've encountered so far, and have blocked indefinitely, have been open proxies, and judging by this, by the language of the posts, and by one other factor, they're being operated by the same person. If either of you wants to know what the one other factor is, feel free to e-mail me. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 08:44, Jun 23, 2005 (UTC)

This just keeps getting odder. The IP used to vandalize the proposed decision (as well as the one that left a message on this here talk page) was 72.9.242.90. http://72.9.242.90 exists (reverse DNS's to grcm.net, according to whois it is registered to Giles Morant and according to that page his email is giles-at-grcm.net). Think we should email him and tell him that he (or someone using his box) was vandalizing wikipedia and that he has been blocked? →Raul654 08:55, Jun 23, 2005 (UTC)

Admin's abuse

Hello, my name is Floweofchivaly, working for science and history fields. I appology in advance to write this page suddenly.

I have been harrased by an admin user, User:Markalexander100, by various ways.

1. He started revert battles Iris Chang by ignoring discussions. He does not favor anything he does not like, and he no longer accept to talk to me but keep reverting without showing any reasons. From his assersions, it is quite clear that he just want to support China.
2. He also stated some anon IPs' reverts are mine without showing any proofs at [6] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/3RR).
3. He also reverted other pages such as The Rape of Nanking (book). I found that there were silent reverts battle, so I encouraged them to talk without joining the battle, but Mark ignored.
4. I have used Wikipedia several times for my research, and I thought it is very useful. This is the reason why I started contributing, but I don't know why there is a person like him here and disturb our contributions.
5. I would like to ask you what should I do. Any kind of help will be greatly appreciated.

--Flowerofchivalry 08:58, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Missing image
Ouzo_-_plomari.jpg

Something for the wikistress.

Missing image
Beach_-_Crete.jpg

something to look forward too.

Dr. Pellegrini,

Allow me to be the first to congrat you on successfuly defending your Thesis, Doc. Good going! One PhD down, 10 more to go! :D Project2501a 09:11, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Congratulations, Mark. I thought that qualification exams are different from defending a thesis. -- Sundar (talk • contribs) 09:13, Jun 23, 2005 (UTC)