Talk:Solar eclipse
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Attn.: For user Tarquin (and other wikipediholic editors): I am not an astronomer but I have a long list of historical solar and lunar eclipses. (Collecting them is just like collecting stamps.) Many old books list a few and there are internet sites that already list some, even show their original Greek text, etc. Your expertise and energy would be appreciated if we want Wikipedia be the most competent, with the longest and best list. The only difficulty is that some key dates (absolute dates) should be accepted by the hundreds of Wikipedia editors before we propose massive changes. But perhaps I am wrong. It is a serious difficulty. For example, if we (you) accept that Romulus reigned from 746 to 709 BCE, then the historical Tarquin (i.e., Lucius Tarquinius Superbus) must have reigned from 530-505, and not till 509 BCE as the conventional books claim. Can I try to input those revised dates for all reigns? There is a continuous list on my desk of the kings and rulers from the Fall of Troy to 168 BCE, the traditional date of the battle of Pydna. Not every question has been resolved but it could be done. I would appreciate some comments from any editor, also encouragement to do those numerous changes. (I am still new here, and do not want to make anyone upset.) For example, this proposed new chronology places the Gaul conquest of Rome to 386 BCE. Some editors may like to date it to 390 BCE, and they must read several pages before they would be convinced that the old date is not too correct. Or, dates of consular years of hundreds of consuls may chane if I do that. (I am not sure if the names of those consuls are already in the Wikipedia at all. Probably most of them not yet. Do we have room to have a place for all of them?) (User:zasimon)= zasimon@hotmail.com
Well we can certainly start a new article List of historical eclipses. But as for changing dates, I'm don't know enough about the subject to form a valid opinion. -- Tarquin 23:22 Nov 23, 2002 (UTC)
Are these dates Julian, Gregorian, proleptic, or what? -phma
The recent historical addition is a bit hard to follow -- the word Varronian precedes any mention of Varro and the general significance of "the Varronian date" is not clear to the average encyclopedia reader (that is, me). Varro is never identified, but the only Varro I see was many hundreds of years after this eclipse.
Long paragraphs don't help. Maybe this information would be better in a chronological list:
- date, place, source, points of interest and significance
I don't understand the reference to a "real eclipse", nor to the person who was "conceived in the womb" (in contrast to Athena, conceived in the brow of Zeus?), and Hinds and Chambers had something to say about "a century ago", but they said it in 1889, so I don't know which century is referenced. All that stuff about when the first day of Thoth fell in 753 BC seems overkill, just give the date in a commonly accepted form and let the surviving ancient Egyptians work it out on their calculators.
As for the dates, I thought it was possible to date historical events from eclipses, not the other way around. If this is not so, the article should explain why there is any dispute about the date of any eclipse in historical times. Ortolan88
The 2005 article talks of a hybrid solar eclipse occuring on April 8 of that year. Maybe this article should explain what is meant by a hybrid solar eclipse as opposed to a regular solar eclipse.
- Added a paragraph based on the footnote here (http://sunearth.gsfc.nasa.gov/eclipse/SEmono/HSE2005/HSE2005.html). Comments welcome. -- ALoan (Talk) 13:58, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)
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Lists of eclipses
I don't think the lists of 'Longest solar eclipses' adds much to this article. The range of years is too wide to be particularly interesting.
A list of historically significant eclipses (Eg. Arthur Eddington's 1919 photographic confirmation of general relativity), coupled with dates, path and average duration of the better eclipses in say the next five years would be more useful. See for example the table at Transit_of_Venus#Past_and_future_transits. - Solipsist 20:31, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)
It would be nice to have a table of upcoming events. Since solar eclipses are fairly rare, we could probably list all the eclipses of the 21st century. But now that I think of it, that should have its own article. ACW 19:20, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- OK removed the eclipses by duration list to talk page. And made a start on a selected list of significant eclipses in the past and near future.
- Longest solar eclipses between 0 and 3000
- Total solar eclipses
| Date | Duration |
| July 16, 2186 | 7m29s |
| July 5, 2168 | 7m26s |
| June 27, 363 | 7m24s |
| July 27, 2204 | 7m22s |
| July 8, 381 | 7m22s |
| June 9, 1062 | 7m20s |
| June 20, 1080 | 7m18s |
| June 16, 345 | 7m17s |
| June 3, 699 | 7m16s |
| June 13, 717 | 7m15s |
| June 1, 132 | 7m14s |
| June 24, 2150 | 7m14s |
| May 29, 1044 | 7m12s |
| June 25, 2522 | 7m12s |
| June 12, 150 | 7m12s |
| July 19, 399 | 7m11s |
| July 3, 2885 | 7m11s |
| June 14, 2504 | 7m10s |
| June 23, 2867 | 7m10s |
| May 23, 681 | 7m09s |
| June 20, 1955 | 7m08s |
| August 8, 2222 | 7m06s |
| May 22, 114 | 7m05s |
| July 1, 1098 | 7m05s |
| June 8, 1937 | 7m04s |
| June 30, 1973 | 7m04s |
| July 5, 2540 | 7m04s |
| July 16, 2903 | 7m04s |
| June 6, 327 | 7m03s |
| June 22, 168 | 7m02s |
| June 25, 735 | 7m02s |
| June 12, 2849 | 7m00s |
- Annular solar eclipses
| Date | Duration |
| December 7, 150 | 12m24s |
| November 25, 132 | 12m16s |
| December 17, 168 | 12m15s |
| December 14, 1955 | 12m09s |
| January 14, 3080 | 12m09s |
| January 24, 3098 | 12m05s |
| December 24, 1973 | 12m03s |
| December 25, 1628 | 12m02s |
| December 2, 1937 | 12m00s |
- The greatest duration of the annular phase of an annular solar eclipse in the 21st century will occur at the eclipse on January 15, 2010 with 11m08s.
Calculating circumstances of solar eclipses
Do we want to have more details about how to predict eclipses? I can research this, if anybody thinks anyone would ever be interested.
ACW 19:22, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Dire warnings
Are all the warnings about observing eclipses really appropriate in an encyclopedia? I don't think they are. (FWIW, I think there is a great deal of needlessly alarmist talk about eye damage during eclipses, but that's by the by and purely IMHO.) I just don't see what place these nanny-ish warnings have in an encyclopedic article. 143.252.80.124 20:07, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
Help needed
My English is poor and I need someone help me to finish articles in Category:Solar eclipses, thanks.